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Post by creolian on Oct 18, 2019 20:51:32 GMT
Im a professional "know it all" sound guy and everything above is good...
I have found that resos have two distinct soundfields close to the face. Ive used two high quality condensers (akg 414bls) a number of dynamic mics ( shure 57,58 ) small condensers like JW ( sanken cos 11b ). One recording method Ive used w good results in MS stereo... many prosumer recorders now have ms matrixing. Its primarily used in film sound recording, but sounds great on guitars.
I Even tried a line gradient shotgun mic ( sennheiser 816)... not bad outdoors, but indoors a line gradient mic usually sounds hollow...bad.
you can never have enough mics ( or expensive enough mics ). I kid but the recording chain is only as strong as its weakest link... That said : Currently, Im using the built in x-y pair on the Zoom recorder. A bit of the "general" setting of compression. Very happy and the quality is more than my purposes need... it has a 10-24 thread hole and I have made an adapter to put it on a mic stand boom. Works like a champ, no cables etc...
Last century, I did a few guest lectures at a local university and I used physical analogy to explain mic technique... mics are essentially ears, but be aware that some microphones have eyes in the back of their heads. Knowing your mics and how they hear is important... i.e. Where the back of a mic is pointed is sometimes more critical than where the front is pointed.. .knowing where those null spots are can make a big difference in both sound quality and gain before feedback in live performance. After having done this for a while, I realize there are many different paths to the same destination but I shudder when I see a mic positioned so that its picking up gobs of unwanted background noise from the rear. ( improper mic technique and the resulting 8 channels of snare drum leaking into an already overly loud sound system is one reason I listen to many live performances outside the front door of the club ).
P.s. The reasons why a small clip on works well for Jw is because it has both a wide enough frequency response and is small. The smaller a mics diaphragm the better its time phase alignment. Theoretically the perfect mic would have a diaphragm as small as a single point in space... Obviously the advantage of perfect phase alignment is negated by the impossibility of a micro diapragm having a wide enough frequency reponse. Im always blown away by the sound of tiny condenser radio mics... mine are pricey but Ive used them on about every typical musical instrument excluding percussion with excellent results----. Sanken Cos 11b. Audio Technica has some very affordable clip ons... these are generally omnis and have a nice natural sound ( they are usually optimized for voice frequencies )
Im going to shutup and go finish this book now... enjoy !
Jeff
( the only thing I actually know is that I will never know it all... this recording thing has been lifelong and theres plenty that Ive not figured out )
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Post by creolian on Oct 17, 2019 9:37:41 GMT
This thread and the forum has opened my musical horizons more in the last two years than the previous 60... thanks yall !
This is what I was tortured with saturday nights as a child... at least I learned how to dance. ( see 1:30 )
And then I was introduced to jazz, funk and the blues...
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Post by creolian on Oct 10, 2019 23:01:21 GMT
I have the same problem with a tricone neck I purchased from NRP. Can someone tell us if it is lacquer or poly? Poly not easy to touch up, not sure about water-based lacquer...nothing is easier to touch up than nitro lacquer... I have seen it posted ( i think here, maybe pete ?) that said its urethane... water based and not too happy about it if ircc. Ive never liked the stuff and it would not surprise me in that NRP guitars are made in california which has some ridiculou$$$ enviornmental laws when it comes to spraying VOCs. The stuff is becoming common because of its environmental friendliness. www.moorfloorfinishes.co.uk/product/waterthane-super-100-floor-seal-varnish-6My delphi had the same issue. Much worse. I have removed the finish. I assume from its player condition and the finish that it probably got baked a few times in a car during summer. I plan on sanding it a bit, leaving it raw and maybe waxed.
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Post by creolian on Oct 10, 2019 22:25:51 GMT
keep us up to date as to long term evaluations? i'd be worried about girls who like me 'cause i abuse a guit*...anyone aware of make-up that matches MOTS finished guits? mitchfit * coupla buds-o-mine went out and scored big inch scooters to impress the ladies, then realized they didn't like girls who liked Harleys. "choose wisely, grasshopper". I have had em on all day, washed a couple dishes and they are still plugging away after a few hours of playing time. I took one off and stuck it back on, still working but starting to loosen... I have transpore taped them. LOL... I dont think a lot of Harley riders really understand the image they are buying into... Oops... First accessory is a Tatoo ? Im afraid of needles... Ive been on two wheels longer than Ive been playing. I watched my father restore a 50 cc kiddy scooter that was underwater in Hurricane Camille. Helped with sandpaper duty. I was 12 years old and fell off the first time I got on it. this is my current ride after I painted it a few years ago. Same pushrod V twin motor as harley, sideways motor longitudinal crank... On bike nights I park this between the rice rockets and the HDs and it always draws a crowd. 39 year old 500cc honda that I have about 800usd in. Ive met quite a few people riding bikes... and honda's slogan in 1980 was, "you meet the nicest people on a Honda" I havent ridden in months... its been close to 37o here all summer, not much cooler now. I wear a leather jacket and wear gloves and its just too hot. Riding A Motorcycle here has become a real daredevil act due to peeps phone use. Im planning on selling it this spring. If ya wants to impress the ladies... my advise, be nice to em. bikes are dangerous. Funny thing is with the guitar... I have terrible performance anxiety. I bring a few Cds in the saddle bag
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Post by creolian on Oct 10, 2019 17:06:06 GMT
ENDED ! Hello all, I do believe My finger pick issues finally are solved. Thought Id share this mini saga... Over the last 45 yeas Ive tried metal, plastic and fred kelly freedom picks and although I can play ok with them, Ive never felt like I had enough nuance or control. Using my bare nails has always been my default but as Ive gotton older my nails are weaker and dont seem to grow as fast. Actually my forefinger nail has been worn down to nothing for about as long as I can remember. ( I cant remember breakfast ) I tried super glue acrylics and although they work great they are a pain to deal with when having to remove worn ones, I dont like super glue or getting harrased by insecure forum members as well. ;-)>. ( addmitedly I felt strange wearing two fake nails, no one else seemed to notice ) The removable riconails have been working well but the glue sold w them is round dots of what looks like clear rubber cement. Its a real challenge to peel it off its backing... I was getting maybe three hours of playing time before they began to loosen. I was not planning to keep using them for other than emergency. Had actually gone back to traditional fingerpicks. and then this morning. I remembered the two side toupee tape I used to attach microphones to skin with. i am trying it today and Ureeka ! I think I have finally found a solution without compromise. ( and dont have to worry about looking weird ) rico nails, and vapon topstick. ricoguitarnails.com/ www.vapon.com/project/topstick/ Topstick also works well attaching a radio mic to my guitars and would easily hold a pup in place temporarily... in that the Michael Messer hair style has become popular it is rarely used to keep a rug attached. Now it is sold to prevent the dreaded nip slip wardrobe malfunction. Avaliable at beauty supply stores or amazon. The riconails I got from srings by mail. back to scratching... all da best y'all, Jeff p.s. Ill still be using plastic dunlop fingerpicks playing my 12 string. They just sound better.
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Post by creolian on Oct 7, 2019 9:20:41 GMT
Hi sorry if this is going to sound confused or a bit daft. i seem to have picked up on a thread that resonators react differently with open tunings.....cone collapse on a single cone and very adaptable with a spider!?! I am looking to buy my first resonator and was considering the MM Blues for sale on the forum, now I am not so sure. I intend to play some slide, mostly fingers with open tunings ala Jack Rose etc. DGDGGD, DADFAD And I like the bite and sound of the metal resonator.... Any help would be super. Many thanks Im glad I found this place after I had a reso for a while. I grew up seeing completely uninformed and isolated muscians making do and improvising whatever... I wouldnt worry too much about cone collapse from a tuning. Personally I like wood body guitars for piedmont country stuff and metal body guitars for delta. have fun ! j
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Post by creolian on Oct 7, 2019 8:53:17 GMT
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Post by creolian on Oct 6, 2019 11:37:44 GMT
Sad... the Cream introduced me to Blues Music. I dont think EC would be quite the god without Ginger and his "jazz" riddums.
May he Rest in Peace
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Post by creolian on Sept 29, 2019 10:14:28 GMT
Hi everyone, hope you are all well. I've just ordered a Myers pickup after seeing it demo'd on YouTube. It's the 'Grip' with a couple of flexible mics' on it. It was being used on a tri-cone and sounded great. My mate Captain Morgan thought so too! Seems a great solution in respect of mic'ing a reso. I have tried the recommended Shure mic route but I have to use volume to make it work. As it's for home use, so I can hear myself practice, it gets a bit noisey. I've got Sixtus, Lace and a Highlander on various guitars as well as undersaddle pickups. But this unit seems ideal for use on my 12 string Amistar because you can position it on the guitar at different locations and further adjust the microphones around the cones/soundholes. I've seen the mic route discussed and recommended many times on the forum, but can't ever remember seeing this particular pickup mentioned. Anybody using one? I'm looking forward to trying it out and will of course report back, but it is always good to hear from you lot! Best wishes to you all, John Hello Bonzo, all, Ive used my old tv sound kit lavaliere radio mics ( guitar, horns, piano) and they work great sound quality wise... this looks like a good solution in that it allows for the fact that resos have distinctly different sounds coming from the cone and the ports; not unlike the different sounds coming from the reed and horn bell in woodwind instruments. If I were in the studio, Id use at least two mics and whatever pickup on discreet tracks. Also, I was very surprised at how much volume I could get before feedback. The mics I have are omnidirectional sanken cos 11 models. One thing about the shure mic is that for live performance they are extermely sensitive in regards to distance from sound source... this proximity effect with a sm57 will not only increase volume but also bass response as you get closer to the mic... this becomes extremely pronounced at the six to one inch range. Ive seen many players use this intentionally to control dynamics but I guess that is a matter of personal preference and habit as some players tend to move their instruments more than others... I ve seen many vocalist use handheld mic technique brilliantly to effectivly compress their volume range by simply moving the mic... subtle but it makes a big difference... You could always use both a shure and the meyers... caveat tho, more isnt always more better as multiple sources can lead to phace cancellation and comb filtering. Im interested to hear how it works out for you... I tended to hit my radio mics occasionally using just tape and a tie clip. Where they sounded good, they were in the way, especially when Ive been with the captain and feeling rowdy... these are my thoughts at 5am after an evening consulting jim beam on guitar playing etc. Have fun, all best Jeff
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Post by creolian on Sept 16, 2019 18:34:44 GMT
Sorry TT, I think my post was misconstrued - I cocked up. I substituted a post of my own which I posted in this thread which should have gone into 'What are you listening to?' with WRONG THREAD! above. If you thought I was being nasty, I wasn't, but please accept my humble apologies anyhoo. Hello Pd, all, Ha ha! I started at the beginning of this old but interesting discussion only to find someone else lost in cyberspace... I might have to adopt your old avatar. Being in the USA and given the quality of the product I dont watch much Tv at all these days. it seems whenever I do, on the adverts it seems Im hearing an awful lot of forlorn slide guitar licks played on reso guitars. This may be a function of watching mostly sports programming as there are a lot of tough guy rugged dodge ram-truck commercials. Some pretty hip but anonymous guitar playing. best, jeff
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Post by creolian on Sept 14, 2019 22:17:28 GMT
Anyone got one of these? reckon it kooks quite cool. Hi Jono, It would be hard to go wrong with any of these small amps as long as your not looking for a loud clean sound. This one sounds pretty good at about the same level as his speaking voice on a clean uke... the original little pignose is more for wailing. They were real popular and I regularly took mine on the boat. the use of small amps in the studio is pretty common but from what Ive seen its more than one amp at the same time. I.e. A pignose along with a fender twin sporting jbl d130s. I use a digitech looper pedal that has AB otputs and regularly use two amps at once. Its a great way to get a really big fat sound. Ive never used the pignose is an AB rig... i might try it...if I can find it. All best, jeff Ha!... 70's pignose... proper settings, volume and door wide open Not exactly a suitcase... more of a shoebox. Sadly, I havent touched this thing in 20 years + Attachments:
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Post by creolian on Aug 24, 2019 21:03:01 GMT
1:45 for slide solo...
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Post by creolian on Aug 19, 2019 21:09:24 GMT
Keeping it musical, I think in 1938 at the carnival there would have been a display by the Colchester Morris Men. Hmmmm.... it doesn't quite have the same vibe as Mardi Gras. This is closer to Dimanche Léger Shine On Michael I tried to look it up... all I could find and understand tells me a Dimanche Leger is a gathering of family, brunch? Honestly, this is a mystery to me... Musically, Im happy to say I've never had to work sound amplification on a choir of young girls on the back of a ford stake truck... that reso might as well be a drum 😜 J
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Post by creolian on Aug 19, 2019 20:11:54 GMT
This has just popped up on our local daily paper website! It shows a float at the Colchester Carnival in 1938. Who were the Follies Cabaret, I wonder? ...and who is the guitarist? When the paper's office opens tomorrow I'll try to find out more info. Update: the reporter I need to contact is on leave until 28th August - Wait out! Hi PD! Your post got me curious about Colchester. it looks like Mardi gras ! I can only imagine the music. I shudder to think of what life was like for those people during the following years. . Also, the ancient history of the area is pretty effing amazing... My speculation is that colchester is the source for all Cultural Follies without the blue notes, and a lot of other things... nice ! C
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Post by creolian on Aug 17, 2019 17:17:12 GMT
Hello Pete, all
Coinkydinkally, I've been under the weather all week ... Read two Lee Child thrillers. "The Persuader" and one that I cannot remember the name of. I've read most of his books. Child is one of the better crime thriller "detective" writers imo... ( I could do without the graphic violence, but I do get a vicarious pleasure when Reacher regularly subdues multiple armed bad guys with his bare hands )
unfortunately the author uses a lot of cultural stereotypes and references to current events with a journalistic license that gives his work a realism that may or may not be factual. I read the account on Blakes demise and I cringed... who knows the truth, but I strongly suspect the book is a fabrication.
I got this from Wikipedia
Blake married Beatrice McGee around 1931. In the following year he made his final recording at the Paramount headquarters, in Grafton, Wisconsin, just before the label went out of business. For decades nothing was known of him after this point, and it was rumored that he met with a violent death; Reverend Gary Davis heard he had been hit by a streetcar in 1934. The research of van der Tuuk et al. suggests that Blake stayed in Wisconsin, living in Milwaukee's Brewer's Hill neighborhood, where Paramount boarded many of its artists. He seems not to have found work as a musician. In April 1933 he was hospitalized with pneumonia and never fully recovered. On December 1, 1934, after three weeks of decline, Beatrice Blake summoned an ambulance. He suffered a pulmonary hemorrhage and died on the way to the hospital. The cause of death was listed as pulmonary tuberculosis. He was buried in Glen Oaks Cemetery, in Glendale, Wisconsin.
All best,
Jeffro
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