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Post by bonzo on Sept 29, 2019 9:35:41 GMT
Hi everyone, hope you are all well.
I've just ordered a Myers pickup after seeing it demo'd on YouTube.
It's the 'Grip' with a couple of flexible mics' on it. It was being used on a tri-cone and sounded great. My mate Captain Morgan thought so too! Seems a great solution in respect of mic'ing a reso. I have tried the recommended Shure mic route but I have to use volume to make it work. As it's for home use, so I can hear myself practice, it gets a bit noisey. I've got Sixtus, Lace and a Highlander on various guitars as well as undersaddle pickups. But this unit seems ideal for use on my 12 string Amistar because you can position it on the guitar at different locations and further adjust the microphones around the cones/soundholes. I've seen the mic route discussed and recommended many times on the forum, but can't ever remember seeing this particular pickup mentioned. Anybody using one? I'm looking forward to trying it out and will of course report back, but it is always good to hear from you lot!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by creolian on Sept 29, 2019 10:14:28 GMT
Hi everyone, hope you are all well. I've just ordered a Myers pickup after seeing it demo'd on YouTube. It's the 'Grip' with a couple of flexible mics' on it. It was being used on a tri-cone and sounded great. My mate Captain Morgan thought so too! Seems a great solution in respect of mic'ing a reso. I have tried the recommended Shure mic route but I have to use volume to make it work. As it's for home use, so I can hear myself practice, it gets a bit noisey. I've got Sixtus, Lace and a Highlander on various guitars as well as undersaddle pickups. But this unit seems ideal for use on my 12 string Amistar because you can position it on the guitar at different locations and further adjust the microphones around the cones/soundholes. I've seen the mic route discussed and recommended many times on the forum, but can't ever remember seeing this particular pickup mentioned. Anybody using one? I'm looking forward to trying it out and will of course report back, but it is always good to hear from you lot! Best wishes to you all, John Hello Bonzo, all, Ive used my old tv sound kit lavaliere radio mics ( guitar, horns, piano) and they work great sound quality wise... this looks like a good solution in that it allows for the fact that resos have distinctly different sounds coming from the cone and the ports; not unlike the different sounds coming from the reed and horn bell in woodwind instruments. If I were in the studio, Id use at least two mics and whatever pickup on discreet tracks. Also, I was very surprised at how much volume I could get before feedback. The mics I have are omnidirectional sanken cos 11 models. One thing about the shure mic is that for live performance they are extermely sensitive in regards to distance from sound source... this proximity effect with a sm57 will not only increase volume but also bass response as you get closer to the mic... this becomes extremely pronounced at the six to one inch range. Ive seen many players use this intentionally to control dynamics but I guess that is a matter of personal preference and habit as some players tend to move their instruments more than others... I ve seen many vocalist use handheld mic technique brilliantly to effectivly compress their volume range by simply moving the mic... subtle but it makes a big difference... You could always use both a shure and the meyers... caveat tho, more isnt always more better as multiple sources can lead to phace cancellation and comb filtering. Im interested to hear how it works out for you... I tended to hit my radio mics occasionally using just tape and a tie clip. Where they sounded good, they were in the way, especially when Ive been with the captain and feeling rowdy... these are my thoughts at 5am after an evening consulting jim beam on guitar playing etc. Have fun, all best Jeff |
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Post by pete1951 on Sept 29, 2019 13:11:35 GMT
The late Bob Brozman was very good at using 1 Mic and getting several tones from it. His control of the guitar-mic relationship was amazing. That said, I have never been happy in the cramped stage I tend to play on with just a mic (noise from drums is often a problem), and these days use a magnetic pickup. I have used a condenser mic taped to the top of a reso, and this worked ok, but you have to use you personal dynamics , you can't just move away/towards the Mic.
PT
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Post by bonzo on Oct 7, 2019 17:46:47 GMT
Hi everyone, hope you are all well. The Myers grip has been and gone, so I thought I'd let you have my thoughts on it, especially as Jeff was kind enough to ask! All round a bit disappointing, not the big natural sound I was hoping for. Even pre amping it I found it unconvincing and not a match for the Sixtus I'd got from Michael or the Lace slimline I have on a MM Lightning. I'm lucky enough to have another tri-cone,a Busker, that came fitted with a Highlander which does sound good, but a bit of faffing about when you want to use it! As mentioned on my previous post I was looking to amplify my 12 string reso and thought the Myers might do the trick. Head to head with the Sixtus humbucker from Michael, on the same reso, same amplification and settings the Sixtus was IMHO far better sounding. While mentioning the Sixtus, I've always thought it was the equal to the Lace slimline and a lot cheaper! Both the pups also work fine plugged into my Marshall acoustic with no extra pre-amping.
So Sixtus humbucker on the 12 string tri-cone it is! As I've mentioned earlier, these pup setups are for home use,to allow me to hear myself but I know many of you have your rigs for gigging. I hope that you'll accept my comments as a reso nut and not an expert!
Best wishes to you all, John
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