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Post by jono1uk on Sept 6, 2019 20:52:32 GMT
Anyone got one of these?
reckon it kooks quite cool.
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 7, 2019 10:16:03 GMT
Both of my stage & recording amps are only 5 watts. I have a hand-built no-name copy of a 50s Champ and a 50s National Westwood. I never use anything else, so 5 watts is loads.
This looks like another take on the Pignose. I am sure it's a good little amp.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by jono1uk on Sept 7, 2019 10:26:35 GMT
yeah forgot about the pignose.... am i right that there is a difference between early and late Pignose's? thought i read somewhere...
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 7, 2019 10:54:29 GMT
Early Pignoses were built in the USA and current ones are built in China. Both are really good, but the early ones are IMHO better. Both USA and Chinese Pignoses are loud and have a great tone, but perhaps the age adds something to the tone of 70s ones.
Pignose amps first came to prominence in the mid 70s when it became known that among many others, Warren Zevon, Frank Zappa, Jimmy Page, the Eagles and Eric Clapton were using them for recording. A great example of the Pignose sound is that much of the 461 Ocean Boulevard album was recorded using Pignose amps. I first used one in the late 70s and not again until a couple of years ago when forum member, Brad Bechtel, very kindly gave me an early one as a gift. It's a wonderful little amp and I am very grateful.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Sept 7, 2019 11:11:53 GMT
Pignose every time for a portable amp, although I do like my Roland Micro Cube for clean tones with reverb / tremolo. Plugged in amps? Valves are required.  |
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Post by Stevie on Sept 7, 2019 11:25:57 GMT
Elsewhere I have read that 461 Ocean Boulevard was recorded largely on Session Rockette 30? The good ole interwebs again!
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 7, 2019 12:31:46 GMT
Elsewhere I have read that 461 Ocean Boulevard was recorded largely on Session Rockette 30? The good ole interwebs again! e&oe...Hi Stevie, I didn't get that information from the Internet, I was told by a friend that worked on the sessions. I am sure a few other amps appeared here and there, but the Pignose was prevalent on that album. Shine On Michael |
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Post by Stevie on Sept 7, 2019 16:38:13 GMT
I think I read it on the Award Session website so if my memory's not failing then I guess it came from Stewart?
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 7, 2019 18:49:04 GMT
I think I read it on the Award Session website so if my memory's not failing then I guess it came from Stewart? e&oe...When I said that my friend worked on the sessions, I meant that he worked at Criteria Studios in Miami when the album was recorded. Shine On Michael |
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Post by Stevie on Sept 7, 2019 19:21:43 GMT
It seems a stretch of the imagination to believe that EC would have shipped an amp like the Rockette out to The USA, whereas a Pignose would have been readily available and likely as not one would be in just about every studio?
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Post by Stevie on Sept 7, 2019 19:50:44 GMT
Panic over guys and gals; turns out I was thinking of the "August" album.
D'oh ...
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Post by slide496 on Sept 7, 2019 23:24:24 GMT
Hi, the demo is from 2013, I don't think the current models are competitively made with their earlier ones, over 30% on Amazon complained about poor construction but the earlier models might be great, I don't think I'll check out the latest model.
I use a roland microcube for my home studies and tried the latest version of the pignose but it wasn't for me. I'm sure they are still well made but I remember the vintage being discussed on the forum as being preferred.
The Roland microcube works well with the few different types of pickups I have - goldfoil dearmond pickups on the bobkats, my epiphone wildkat and I have a silvertone reissue with lipstick, (which type I think was an idea I got from jono1uk) and doesn't project into my neighbors' apartments -thats unfortunately a priority for me living in close quarters.
Lawd lawdy,
Harriet
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 10:26:10 GMT
The microcube also has a useful auxiliary input, and an output that can DI to the PA / another amp.
As with all rolands though, the chorus etc effects are too OTT. Hasn't anyone ever told them this?
TT
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Post by Stevie on Sept 9, 2019 10:44:09 GMT
Agreed TT, but nothing's perfect and I can live with the Cube's shortcomings.
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Post by mitchfit on Sept 14, 2019 1:45:05 GMT
jono1uk,
as MM stated above 5 watts [6V6GT/JAN VT107A single ended valve output from his champ clone] is plenty for almost any need.
even large venue concerts can/do use them close mic'd into the house PA system and usually surrounded with a sonic barrier to prevent system feed back.
call it the opinion of a tone snob, but go demo a class A single ended 6V6 amp at your local music store to find if you don't agree that there are no modeling or SS amps that sound as sweet FOR GUITAR in either cleans or high gain distortion. the "class A" designation means the output tube will be always be operating at max voltage regardless of volume knob setting. the volume is only controlling pre-amp signal level to the output. a real sonic advantage when playing in small venues.
if you gig, the compact size is obviously to your advantage. IMO, an amplifier head has more advantages. it divides the amp and speaker weights into even smaller more portble units. the combined weight of the separate units will usually exceed that of just a combo like the champ. but if like itself you need to feel a power chord vibrating in your lung cavities occasionally, you might be amazed how huge a clipping single ended amp is into a 4x12 cabinet.
[if you decide to get one note that with with a tube/valve amp it is very important the speaker impedance requirements match with amp specs, and that the speaker is connected before the amp is even turned on.]
higher watt tube/valve amps are only appreciably louder for ~clean~ signal reproduction. this is not not a loss to the small watt amp when it is mic'd into the house PA.
after many, many moons there have been lotsa musical instruments come and gone. the only thing i managed to learn in all of those deals gone by is the best bet is to get the highest level of quality you can afford the first time. it will be cheaper in the long run.
which slowly led up to my unsolicited suggestion you try to find a used mini-mat head there in the UK. i tried for 2-3 years to find one here in the USA to no avail. either there weren't that many imported or more likely those who do own one do not want to sell it.
ALL amplifiers will eventually need to be serviced. even under ideal conditions the capacitor values will go south due to age alone. the Matamp products are world renown for industrial grade builds. there aren't many techs this side of the pond who even want to work on printed circuit board equipment. the Matamp is hard wired and designed with ease of repair in mind.
what it all boils down to is an amplifier that will last until the cows come home, and will gain value the entire time you own it.
i have no affiliation with Matamp. in spite of my best efforts, i don't even own one. that said, i have no dog in this race. or any point to prove.
just my opinion of what may be your best plan.
mitchfit
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