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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 20:37:00 GMT
Don't know if anybody is interested or indeed has one already but I have just seen that Guru Soundz has started selling Mohan Veena's for £399. I would be very interested in any reviews www.gurusoundz.com/productdetails.php?id=44Cheers
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 19, 2013 22:15:43 GMT
Hi Tommo, This is the Tronad Mohan Veena This is a real Concord Mohan Veena. I also jumped when I saw it.....but, it is not a Concord, it is a Tronad, and from what In know about Mohan Veenas, I would be careful. The price of a Concord in Europe and America is treble the price of them in India to Indian people. I can only assume Tronad instruments are priced in a similar way. You can buy a Tronad electric guitar in India for £40. That instrument we are looking at is a very cheaply made copy of a Concord Mohan Veena, and what worries me about it is whether it is strong enough to withstand the enormous amount of tension from all the strings. Even the Concords that Vishwa Mohan Bhatt designed and plays, have serious issues after a few years with warping the hefty square neck. So if the cheap copy is made with poor materials, it will just fold up after a short time. It might be possible to strengthen it. I have seen it done on Concords, but without seeing this instrument I cannot say for sure. One thing I can say for sure is that it must be very cheaply built. What I don't know is if it is any good. I have asked a friend who knows about these things and will let you know what he says. Shine On Michael
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Post by myk on Apr 20, 2013 10:27:44 GMT
One of these is a nice alternative.
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Sound is fantastic and I don't think the build quality will be an issue.
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 20, 2013 15:45:25 GMT
Hi Tommo,
I have heard from my friend who knows about these instruments and he does not speak very highly of Tronad Mohan Veenas. He said the acoustic tone is not good, but they sound okay plugged in. So much so, that they now come with pickups fitted as standard.
In India, Tronads are a third of the price of Concords, which makes them very cheaply produced.
This thread is quite topical for me because I recently ordered a Concord Mohan Veena for myself.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 20:10:47 GMT
Thanks Michael, I shall be very interested to hear about your Concord when it arrives.
Cheers
Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 22, 2013 22:28:07 GMT
Hi Pete,
I recently spent an evening with two Concord Mohan Veenas. One was a few years old and had been reinforced by its owner because it was folding in on itself, and the other was relatively new and still in good shape. Both instruments played and sounded absolutely beautiful. Apparently the new ones are stronger and have more sustain than the older ones. I would be very happy with either, they are great instruments.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 20:00:49 GMT
Excuse me jumping in on the tread but I've got to thank you guys! I've gone from never having heard of a Mohan Veena this morning, to downloading a couple of Harry Manx albums this afternoon. An unexpected new pleasure. So thanks once again for broadening my horizon by side effect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 20:47:57 GMT
Agreed! I was watching that Jerry Douglas clip, wondering what he sounded like, and if anything, it sounded like one of these played by Hary Manx. Its an eye catching bit of kit too.... (xmas....) Aside from the tone, if played lapstyle (is it always?) could the neck just be made bigger? - I bet pete1951 could make one. TT
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 26, 2013 7:34:00 GMT
The chaturangui, also made by Concord, was designed by Debashish Bhattacharya and has a different string configuration to the mohan veena. Shine On Michael
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Post by Stevie on May 6, 2013 14:26:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 11:44:09 GMT
Hello everyone in this forum ! My name is Shantanu and I am Hindustani Slide Guitarist from India ... as far as Mohanveenas go I have to say that the Jawari of sympathetics and sympathetic response is a very important factor when buying a Mohanveena. Good Jawari of sympathetic strings enhances the beauty of the Raag or the music being played. Good Jawari also means better sympathetic response. In India there are many Mohanveena makers today like Rikhi Ram, Manoj Kr Sardar, Gibtone, Tronad, etc but I have played these guitars while their tone and sustain is sweet the jawari of sympathetic strings is simply not good enough to play it on stage. For that a good Conchord is a must ! Cheaper Mohanveenas by other small manufacturers are okay for begineers though because Conchord Guitars are very expensive.
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 21, 2014 11:51:42 GMT
Hello Zadeindia,
Welcome to our forum.
Thank you for the information about other makers of Mohan Veenas. Bhabasindhu's Conchords are wonderful instruments.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 11:53:49 GMT
The chaturangui, also made by Concord, was designed by Debashish Bhattacharya and has a different string configuration to the mohan veena. Shine On Michael The Chaturangui has Chikary Strings on the front, ie unlike Mohanveena where we would use thumbs to play Chikary in Chatuangui we would use the fore and middle fingers to play Chikary ... as a result the thumb remains free to play the main playing string allowing the guitarist to play much faster Sarod like passages. Many Hindustani Guitarists also tend to keep Chikary on both front and side. The Taraf or sympathetics are on the side. The advantage of this is the sympathetics can be strummed very easily during playing the disadvantage is the sympathetic resonance is a bit reduced. I find the Chaturangui more suitable to playing light Dhuns or semi-classical music.
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 21, 2014 12:01:19 GMT
Hi Zadeindia,
I have only played a Chaturangui once, but I totally understand what you are saying about the differences between the two instruments.
Are there any Youtube clips of you playing either of these instruments?
Shine On Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Oct 21, 2014 14:48:23 GMT
I have just converted a `normal `guitar` into a `sitar` guitar, as it happens, and am having trouble with the pick-up. It has ( at the moment) no sympathetic strings and is based on a cheap steel string. I was hoping to use a magnetic pick-up, but this fails to amplify the sitar part on the note enough. Do the cheap ("sound 0k plugged in") Tonads use a piezo?? PT
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