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Post by jono1uk on Mar 27, 2018 14:55:08 GMT
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 27, 2018 15:56:14 GMT
That 8th fret don't fit! There must be a Howling Wolf tab somewhere.
I don't play from tab, but it seems wrong.
PT
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 27, 2018 16:58:12 GMT
That TAB is wrong.
I would listen to Howlin' Wolf if I were you, because you will find that what he plays is actually different to most people's perception of what they think he plays. Wolf is playing something more akin to Patton and Johnson's style than is commonly accepted. Most of the melody is played at the 12th fret, there is the fill between the lyrics and that almost covers it. I could show you, but I would never even try to TAB it.
Don't do the TAB, just listen to the original.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 27, 2018 17:14:03 GMT
Howling Wolfs version is very sparse. I don't think that it goes to the 4chord (the C in Open G) when the vocals start. Most 'modern' versions follow the Stones, who go to the 4, (and put in an extra bar here and there).
Howling Wolf plays guitar in open G with a sus4th (this does sound very like a C chord) so that could work for you.
PT
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Post by bonzo on Mar 27, 2018 17:29:02 GMT
Lucky enough to have seen Wolf up close in a club a couple of times with different bands. As with so many others, songs were different, musically and lyrically. It's one of the songs I enjoy having a go at, I just aim at the feel of, and once in a while go whoa enjoyed that!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 27, 2018 17:40:42 GMT
Jono, listen to Wolf explaining how to play the slide part to Eric Clapton at the London Sessions. EC doesn't quite follow what Wolf tells him in the actual song, but the rehearsal is good. Listen from 25:45
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 17:48:38 GMT
The tab doesn't appear to show the vibrato either. Also it fails to communicate the experience of a black man growing up in pre war Mississippi.
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Post by bonzo on Mar 27, 2018 18:01:25 GMT
And maybe what the song is actually all about! Mind you we did have Max Miller and George Formby for our double entendres and National and ukulele players!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by jono1uk on Mar 27, 2018 18:11:32 GMT
Jono, listen to Wolf explaining how to play the slide part to Eric Clapton at the London Sessions. EC doesn't quite follow what Wolf tells him in the actual song, but the rehearsal is good. Listen from 25:45 Thanks Michael ..i have this on Vinyl ..need to have another listen Shine On Michael |
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 27, 2018 18:44:17 GMT
That's a wonderful album, I have it on vinyl too. I bought mine in 1976, a few years after its release. It was a big record for me at that time. I think I learnt to play every song. I also loved the Jerry Lee Lewis London Sessions album that was recorded in 1973. Rory Gallagher played some lovely stuff on that recording.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 19:26:08 GMT
8th fret for those notes does actually fit if you play 'em nice. I don't do tab, but I do know that sliding 3 frets up from your open / barre position (e.g. 5th - 8th) is pretty standard stuff. TT |
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 27, 2018 20:42:18 GMT
The 8th fret on the top two strings makes a seventh and is as TT says, standard stuff in blues. But in Howlin' Wolf's song there is no sign of that happening.
What Pete says is absolutely true about the Rolling Stones version and its influence. It even affected the British band on Howlin' Wolf's London Sessions. I think the reason for that is because Wolf's version is less logical to a 1960s British musician, and is still that way even now.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 28, 2018 8:30:00 GMT
Last night, having been reminded of Wolf's original and then listening to the London Sessions masterclass, I decided to spend an hour with the original and work out what is being played. Wolf's sense of timing and the way he expresses himself with the guitar are so old school delta. Charley Patton's influence shines through in every way. There are some licks and moves that I have not heard anyone play in all the cover versions that exist. Thanks Jono, I enjoyed that. Got any more?  Shine On Michael |
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Post by jono1uk on Mar 28, 2018 15:20:12 GMT
A video of you playing it correctly would be nice to see Michael
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 28, 2018 15:26:44 GMT
Jono, I would happily post videos on here, but I don't want to upload them to Youtube or anywhere else on the Internet to enable that. I don't think that "Add Attachment" will work with a video.
Shine On
Michael
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