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Post by Ian McWee on Dec 15, 2006 10:05:09 GMT
Hi Anders, please drop me a line from here my friend, or direct from our website - we can make you an 'Ultimate' lead crystal slide to your prefered internal diameter .....the smallest we've ever made was a 12mm I.D. - and the largest was made to 30mm I.D.....the guy must wear boxing gloves when playing . Slide On! Ian. www.diamondbottlenecks.com
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Post by Anders on Dec 15, 2006 11:47:51 GMT
Ian, I know you make excellent slides and have read the raves here and on other boards. Will do some more exact slide measurments this weekend and figure out what I want. The problem is that you have so many options, and I don't have the money to order one of each and try out... Anders
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 14:46:19 GMT
A good slide guitarist?
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Post by mirrormist on Dec 15, 2006 15:12:29 GMT
haha...not so sure about that Bernie...i am sure a good slide guitarist doesn't make good resonator guitars or strings for that matter...though i do take your point that a good slide guitarist can make a bad slide sound better:)
Enjoyed reading all of the thoughts on this thanks again
hey just checked out diamond bottlenecks and it seem's like i am trying to reivent the wheel...with their 50/50...man some real works of art there:)
regards
Anthony
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Post by Michael Messer on Dec 15, 2006 16:20:08 GMT
I am intruiged by different peoples' tastes & preferences. There is a bit of talk about slides and getting them to fit tight on your finger, either by getting one made to measure, or by stuffing dollar bills inside. I am totally the opposite and like my slides to be loose so my finger still has some movement and space to bend. I also vary where the slide sits on my finger; for example when I play above the 12th fret (12 fret guitar) I push the slide up my finger to give me more reach up the neck.
Shine On, Michael
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 16:48:58 GMT
I too prefer a bit of play in my slides, and it's now automatic for me to crook my finger inside the slide with just enough pressure to hold the slide firm.
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Post by Ian McWee on Dec 15, 2006 18:26:13 GMT
Ditto with me too - crooking my finger inside the slide feels more comfortable than having the 'splint' effect of jamming yer poor digit into a too-tight slide. Whenever i've tried some of our finished slides with internal diameters that are too small for my personal preference.....i end up clattering the slide against the fretboard - not good Slide On! Ian.
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Post by Anders on Dec 16, 2006 12:15:42 GMT
I like a bit "tight" fit to so the slide stops at my first (last?) knuckle. It shouldn't pinch the finger, just be snug enough to not go past the knuckle. Since I wear the slide on my pinky, I find that a loose slide sometimes get in my way when I fret notes. It's easier to keep the slide away from the fretboard with a snug slide. However, if I put the slide on my ring finger, it is much easier to control a loose slide when fretting. Would be interesting if people said which finger they wear the slide on in addition to loose or snug fit preference.
Anders
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Post by mirrormist on Dec 16, 2006 14:41:56 GMT
There's a clip of Son House on youtube "preaching blues" where he has his slide pretty much as you suggest ..it looks a fairly tight fit to me perhaps in order to keep some sort of control I guess...at the moment I am finding it more comfortable full on my finger with enough room to bend for stability....
Also… noticed that Son House holds his slide at more of an angle on that song.
enjoying
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Anthony
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Post by Mairena Red on Dec 17, 2006 12:01:44 GMT
Hi everybody,
This is a fascinating thread. I started off using a Dunlop pyrex slide but soon gave it up as I found it lacked sustain even on an electric guitar. The conventional wisdom is that you should use glass on an electric and metal on an acoustic. However, there are plenty of exceptions out there (Ry Cooder uses a glass slide on an acoustic and Lowell George used a Craftsman socket wrench on an electric) so I guess there are no rules.
These days I use King slides for both acoustic and electric. I have a steel and a bronze one and they both sound great. The steel one has a nice bright sound and great sustain and really cuts right through, whilst the bronze one has a slightly warmer sound for those quieter numbers. They both weigh about the same (just under 4 oz) so it's easy to switch them around. The sad news is that the guy who made them died in the summer so Ron only has a limited number left at the LRC. Buy now while stocks last.
All the best,
Joe (aka Mairena Red)
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Post by mirrormist on Dec 31, 2006 1:42:29 GMT
Hi…just thought I’d post a pic of some of the slides I’ve mentioned. A. gun metal mid nineties (guess it must be the stuff cannons were made of:)) B. phosphor bronze…my latest attempt at getting the weight right though this is only 2oz C. phosphor bronze bullet end…a bit too light this one D. phosphor bronze bullet end…too loose and a bit short E. vitreous enameled mild steel…chocolate fireguard F. Robert Johnson PB…a lot heavier than my own…too loose G. The real deal but way too big and loose for my little pinky:) Happy 2007 Regards Anthony
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Post by fitchmeister on Feb 27, 2007 16:44:43 GMT
I've had a 'Redhouse' slide from Ian Mc Wee for about a month - and it's ace. I wear it 'thin end down' on my pinky so the top flares out at the finger tip. It's then dead comfy to bend my finger a little to grip it internally. Lots of control and sounds great on my Reso (tho i think my parlour needs the 'drive' of a heavy metal slide).
Chuffed
Roj
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Post by Ian McWee on Feb 27, 2007 21:32:48 GMT
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Post by redeft on Feb 28, 2007 14:10:24 GMT
Great Thread! one can always learn.
I made three slides out of steel while taking a night class in "machine shop practice"at the local college . Starting out with a big piece of round stock it was very satisfying to watch the steel peel off in long curly ribbons while spinning on the lathe. The first one was too long,the second too big for my finger and the third one was just right. I tapered the inside so the edge is smooth and the 1st inch or so is a bit thinner. This makes it more comfortable and it fits quite nicely.Leaving the inside roughly sanded improves the grip. The thickness turned out to be about 1.9 mm thick and if I were doing it again id make it a bit thicker. It's 3 1/2 inches long. After using it daily for over two years little wear grooves are appearing on the surface which indicate that the stock metal from the shop is too soft..
I've just made a plaster mold of it and am slip casting some in clay. I will be making a mold of the larger one too and will be able to adjust the wall thickness. Lots of experimenting! Next week I hope to have some finished clay slides to play with.
In an Ideal world slides would be custom made to fit. Maybe going to your local machine shop with your dimensions might work.. Trade music for a custom made slide? They might enjoy the challenge and I know it would be a very easy job for them. Machinists can be very expensive but when you think about how many miles,years you will get out of your perfect custom slide I think it would be worth it.
Hi Ho, Peter
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Post by robn on Feb 28, 2007 15:18:25 GMT
I had a couple of slides made up at my local machine shop about 18 months ago (one in stainless steel and one in phosphor bronze). I didn’t quite get the dimensions or weight right for my reso (What else could I have possibly got wrong? ) but my son uses them on electric and acoustic. I used to like my slides to fit snugly but I find now that I prefer a looser fit and bend my pinky to hold the slide internally. Interestingly, this has had the effect of allowing me reduce the break angle of my wrist and therefore play with a far more relaxed hand/wrist position. So it may be worth experimenting with a slightly larger slide ID if you are prone to tendonitis. Robn
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