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Post by wrinkleygit on Sept 21, 2014 17:13:43 GMT
hello, recently purchased Deuce's ( great guy to deal with ) omi spider cone dobro with the intention to use this in regular tuning, restrung with my favourite newtone heritage 12-51 strings & lowered the action by fitting a tusc (martin size) saddle which just needed trimming on the ends, I have followed the stewmac instructions to set cone tension, i.e. slacken centre screw until string buzz then tighten by 1/4 & retighten by another 1/2 turn, to this end the guitar plays great with a nice low action , however it does lack a little bass on the 5 & 6 strings. I don't want to overstress the cone by just tightening the centre drew needlessly if there is no benefit to be had, I use the same strings on my martin & have no problem with lack of bass response, any advice on this welcome,I can live with the tone I currently have as the guitar plays so well in this setup. The newtone heritage strings are low tension when strung up by the way so there would be less pressure on the saddle than with some other brands, so would this mean I would need to put more tension on the cone ? thanks, mike b.
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Post by zak71 on Sept 21, 2014 17:22:49 GMT
fitting a tusc (martin size) saddle Tusq saddles do not belong in resonator guitars. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what was decimating your bass tone. On the other hand, spider bridge resonator guitars are not known for having a whole lot of low end to their sound.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 17:57:52 GMT
Hi Mike BTW, I found those brass saddles I was looking for - let me know if you want them and I'll post them tomorrow. TT
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Post by wrinkleygit on Sept 21, 2014 18:01:53 GMT
yes please, would be interesting to give them a try, thanks, mike.
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Post by karlos on Sept 21, 2014 21:15:17 GMT
You can't expect to much bass from 51 string. Try 13-56 set.
cheers
Karlos
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Post by rbe on Sept 22, 2014 2:07:42 GMT
51 does seem light. Go at least 53. But, I am not in favor of tightening the screw in the spider as though it is somehow mathematical. 1/4 turn, 1/2 turn, etc. I suggest you losen the screw until it moves freely. Then tighten it with very gentle pressure until you meet resistance. At that point you are close. Now strum the strings and listen for the sound to clarify. It shouldn't take much. I go a touch past that. The total of 3/4 of a turn that StewMac suggests may not be enough or it could be too much. I find after contact, I really only need about a 1/4 of a turn to start hearing the sweet spot, but it is never exactly that amount. If you are not sure, loosen it and try again. The worst thing you can do is over-tighten it. It is also important that the spider, cone, and well all seat properly without string pressure. Without that, you may never find the tone you are looking for.
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