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Post by pete1951 on Nov 15, 2013 17:08:39 GMT
Went to see Pokey Lafarge on Weds. (V. good) but maybe more interest to the forum is this guy and Roberto Luti his slide player
PT And his guitar is it a Supro? ( I`ve lent my copy of Marks Book to someone), though at the gig he played a NRP 12 fret, Luti had the old Strat as in this vid.
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 17:42:29 GMT
Pete, watched video [sound card in 'puter has gone south] and paused on scenes that showed the axe fairly well. it DOES look like a supro, but i just dunno for sure. Bruce Zinky, US amp builder: www.zinky.com/#who re-desgned many fender amp circuits when he worked at their custom shop, has bought the rights to the supro name. IIRC, he said in an interview, to keep certain Asian knock-off/clone amp and guitar builders from blaspheming the company's heritage. even switched his flagship amp to the supro branded name from OEM "Zinky Mofo". supposed to include a few tweaks now also from supro circuits of the valco era. he recently started a custom build business of the old Ozark guitar: suprousa.com/guitars/that would be VERY hard to discern from the original short of taking it apart and looking at the electronic components. in short.... ..."is that a Supro he`s playing?"... definitely maybe. mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 17:53:34 GMT
^^^ PS
being a custom build shop, it is my understanding they will build whatever you spec out.
mitchfit
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Post by pete1951 on Nov 19, 2013 17:58:51 GMT
Yes ,I thought a definite `Maybe`. The new Supros do have the same `Vibe` about them as the old one,though it looks like the one he`s playing is short-scale and new `standard` Supros are 25" scale single cuts........ More when I get my book back. PT
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 18:03:15 GMT
looking at it again, that does look shorter than 25" scale.
looks 1133 national scale, in proportion of body VS neck.
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 18:09:46 GMT
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Post by zak71 on Nov 19, 2013 18:39:08 GMT
It's a Supro Belmont. Made from the mid 50s until the early 60s when the model was re-designed (along with most of Supro's "solidbody" line) with a fiberglass (aka "Res-o-Glas") body. Regular 24.75" scale length as on most Valco non-student model electrics. Cool guitars, not unlike a single-pickup Dual-Tone. You can tell it apart froma Zinky "Supro" from a mile away, those things have nothing in common whatsoever aside from a vague cosmetic resemblance.
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 18:42:23 GMT
Pete,
@ 3:36 through 3:40 there is a view of the back of the guitar. shouldn't the two screw covers for the bolt on neck be visible there?
asking, not that familiar with the Ozark model.
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 18:45:15 GMT
Zak,
apparently you posted while i was typing/researching.
was the Belmont a bolt-on?
mitchfit
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Post by Mark Makin on Nov 19, 2013 19:03:27 GMT
Hi Mitchfit Everything made by Valco under the Supro name had a bolt-on neck after 1949.
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 19:11:25 GMT
Mark,
Thanks. did you look at 3:36 through 3:40?
any opinions?
mitchfit
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Post by Mark Makin on Nov 19, 2013 19:34:52 GMT
Hi Mitchfit, I agree it's not easy to see much from the video - however, I've never seen a red, late 1950s, Supro Belmont that does not have the two screw caps over the neck adjusters. There are plenty of pics on google - all have the two covers. It COULD BE possible that it is a non-adjustable version, all the original Ozarks and National Cosmopolitans (smaller solid bodies) that were made in the previous couple of years had no neck adjustment. My preferred best guess would be that it is a normal Belmont that we can't quite see the back of!! Best Mark
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 19:38:16 GMT
Pete & Zak,
doubt there is a better authority out there than Mark.
mitchfit
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Post by slide496 on Nov 19, 2013 19:39:09 GMT
As an aside,for those who haven't heard the story, Roberto Luti was deported from America, presumably keeping the U.S. safe from dangerous blues slide guitarists. Doh.
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 19, 2013 19:51:15 GMT
hopefully Pete's video posting won't bring him up on Interpol's radar...
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