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Post by toom on Apr 30, 2012 17:22:16 GMT
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Post by slide496 on Apr 30, 2012 18:51:18 GMT
Thanks - I have a bunch of his dvds from Mance LIpscomb to Blind Willie Johnson - big fan of his group of teachers and have found my ear has developed from working with his tuition dvds. and even when I haven't followed through and learned the lesson completely they are fun and informative to listen to and the teachers give great demonstrations.
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 30, 2012 20:48:40 GMT
I enjoyed reading that. Thanks for posting.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by blew on Jun 10, 2012 17:27:26 GMT
Ever wonder why He does that really strange thing with the tab,
Putting the fret numbers between the lines instead of on them?
I have his Delta Blues Guitar book. I haven't tried playing anything in it yet as I'm at fairly early stages with fingerstyle stuff.
I think its going to take a bit of getting used to when I do try to play from it.
Regards
Blew.
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Post by steadyrollinman on Jun 10, 2012 21:03:39 GMT
I was fortunate to be one of Stefan's students for a couple of years while he lived in England. We used to go to his house twice a week for lessons, during which time we met Sam Mitchell, Leo Winjkamp Jnr, Duck Baker, MIke Cooper and many other musicians who were passing through London at that time. Stefan told us amazing stories about Mississipi John Hurt, Son House, Rev Gary Davis, Skip James. He was a great guitar player, disciplinarian and teacher, and went out of his way to give extra attention to those of us who were smitten with this music. I was very lucky to have had this time with him. Still a very good friend.
Chris
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 11, 2012 7:52:17 GMT
I know Stefan, but having never used any of his TAB or tuition books, I have no idea why it is written in the way it is, but I suspect it has something to do with printing techniques and the fact that much of Stefan's TAB was probably written out a long time ago.
I could never get on with TAB. I did try when I was learning, I could get a few pointers from it, but my patience with it was and still is very short.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Stevie on Jun 11, 2012 8:10:52 GMT
I think I've got some Martin Simpson tab written like that and I agree that it's very confusing. It almost ruins the visual advantage that tab has over manuscript.
Steve's rendition set me off to have a go with Voodoo Chile.,so another shout for him.
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Post by slide496 on Jun 11, 2012 8:32:12 GMT
I work with Stefan's tabs and others from the workshop and it never bothered me to toggle the two tabbing styles. Originally the tabs were handwritten and I've always thought he did it that way for legibility. The tabs for slide, whoever writes them,can be confusing for me so I am learning to rely more on listening - they don't really tab the dancing, brushing, damping and the like..It's not like tabbing a finger picking song. Having to angle the guitar so I can look up at the tab and down at the guitar gets on my nerves.
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Post by steadyrollinman on Jun 11, 2012 21:42:55 GMT
I agree Michael, tabs are very strange, they almost always slow down the learning process. I remember you telling about a visit you had to the US, and going to the local hoe down, and how you learnt from an old bloke who came and played in front of you until you had "got it". Almost osmosis.
Stefan told me that when he used to go to the Reverend for lessons, he would be given so much stuff, the only way he could remember it all was to draw digrams of the strings, and then number the frets of the respective string. (No doubt a precursor to what's known as tab today) this way he would have a crude record of the day's tuition. Sometimes a dozen songs in a day!
Stefan supplied tab with his lessons, and would be pretty strict in the way one learnt a particular piece; but would then push you toward improvising the piece when you were comfortable with it.
Horses for courses as they say.
Regards,
Chris
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Post by Stevie on Jun 11, 2012 22:06:09 GMT
I think that tab (in some form) actually pre-dates manuscript. It doesn't help with timing and inflection but as an aid to "osmotic" learning, it provides an excellent roadmap. I'm ready to be pulled up here, but for all its benefits, I don't suppose manuscript could be written down in such a form as would allow (eg) a shuffle beat piece to be played. At some point, it has to be in the heart, head and ear? There's room for everything in my book, but not much space for being able to state whether a scale is mixolydian / dorian or whatever. A fine line between laziness and practicality. I had to learn theory when I started out in classical guitar, but give me tab these days because I'm old / lazy.
D'oh, off topic again.
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Post by slide496 on Jun 12, 2012 0:00:53 GMT
stevie I really like your description of tab -"provides an excellent roadmap", thats one I will carry with me.Thanks!
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Post by blew on Jun 12, 2012 16:22:11 GMT
I read somewhere that guitar tab predates Bach, I don't know about manuscript.
I learn quite a lot from tab and listening. I've always used tab maybe thats why I don't find it a problem. I usually find I can play a lick through a few times slowly and get it under my fingers enough to be able to practice it refering only occasionally to the tab. I listen to the music to get the neuances of the piece. My ear isn't good enough yet to learn only from listening. Although I'm working on it. Any tips appreciated.
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