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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 13, 2007 16:55:56 GMT
Hello Ted,
We try to keep this forum as open, friendly & informative as possible. I was rather concerned about your comments and have just searched through over 100 posts that have Bob's name in them. I did not find any negative or competitive comments, apart from a couple of posts where people mentioned their preferences and taste in music. If you do a Michael Messer search on IGS you find similar posts.
Has anybody else found this forum to be as Ted has desribed it?
Ted, I remember you asking for some advice a while ago, but I cannot recall what the subject was - I do hope the advice was helpful & informative?
Shine On Michael
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Post by rickS on Jul 13, 2007 17:43:47 GMT
Can't say as I've noticed any negativity re Mr B - I'm a great believer in 'the more imput the better' on forums, especially when they have the degree of knowledge & expertise that Bob has; also, when differing views can be discussed in a friendly & rational way, it affords us a wider range of info from which to form our own views, a very good thing IMO; I find Michael's forum friendly & helpful (or I wouldn't visit so often)...
vive la difference, I say,
RickS
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Post by robn on Jul 13, 2007 18:19:53 GMT
I wonder if the time difference has some part to play in who posts here and how often This is a friendly forum and the posts tend to follow the general bio up and down flow of European time. ie a 10am post has the tone of a 10am conversation and an 1130pm post (post pub!) has the tone of an 1130pm post. Our US members tend to post at 4am So there is biorhythm difference. Also the UK is about the size of one State, so a lot of forum members have had the chance to meet up (which does make a difference). I visit IGS, because, like here there are some great posts about the guitars and music genera I'm interested in. But I find I'm posting there at the same sort of time as the French, Scandinavians and Australians - the US posts come in overnight (my time) and a thread will have changed tack considerably before the Europeans log on again the following day. It was quite interesting logging on from Kathmandu - I definitely felt I was in the wrong time zone to communicate really effectively (in fact, in Kathmandu I was probably in the wrong century ) I've never noticed an animosity toward any artists or any forum member on this site - which is a value Michael has worked hard to uphold. To be honest, IGS can get a little heated!!!! Robn He He He! This is spinny guitar is fun ;D
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Post by Mark Makin on Jul 13, 2007 19:06:35 GMT
I think you must be confusing this with some other forum Ted. It is my considered opinion that Michaels forum is the most even handed, sensible discussion between like minded people anywhere. You always get concern, technical advice and opinions for any problems you may have. Michael goes out of his way to maintain the temperature levels between people even when provoking comments come in. You surely can't prefer somewhere like IGS!
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Post by mirrormist on Jul 13, 2007 20:41:03 GMT
Thanks for taking time out from your tour Bob...appreciated. just wondered if the National tricones had more "mana" than the "mojo" usually associated with them...thanks again. Michael ...i also did a search as i was puzzled by Bobs remarks and found nothing of any significance...i guess if i look hard enough i may find something but weighed against all of the positive BB comments I read it would pale into insignificance.. Hello Ted..i guess you saw something that made you feel that there was some negativety towards Bob B... ...I hope you feel you can join in some more in the forum discussions in the future as i for one welcome opposing veiws:) best wishes to all Anthony
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Post by Bob Brozman on Jul 14, 2007 5:05:51 GMT
I noticed it, too, which is why I have asked.....
There can be no "best" in music, just as there is no best fruit. Music is too big, bigger than any one person. That is why I love and respect it so much! It's a humbler, and it can make one a better person, if you let it.
Well, alright--there is an exception--tricones are the best resonators! Now I've done it....(carefully ducking to avoid thrown objects.....)
.....................................................................................>Mr. John Dopyera thought so too!
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Post by Bob Brozman on Jul 14, 2007 5:15:20 GMT
Just to be clear, I absolutely had no intention of dissing this forum at all. It provides a great service. Just somewhere along the line it seemed a bit like the eccentric uncle effect occasionally...... Did not mean to cause any trouble, just chimed in as a past owner of the Beauchamp, and added a personal question. Back to guitars.....Colin, are you going for it? It could have been yours at 45, as you recall !! It belongs with the Harry, so their ghosts can have a good punch-up!
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 14, 2007 8:42:50 GMT
I know you didn't. Please chime in as often as you like. I am very proud of what we have built up over the last few years and I am very pleased to be in the company of so many passionate National, Dobro & slide guitar enthusiasts. George & Harry would make a wonderful pair Shine On, Michael.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2007 18:40:53 GMT
Reading Bob and Ted’s comments concerned me because I’m aware that I’ve made some mildly critical comments about some of Bob’s work. I don’t think I’ve said anything out of order (I’ve just re-read all of my posts to check), all I’ve done, as Michael suggests, is express my tastes and opinions.
I enjoy most of Bob’s music, particularly his blues based stuff, but despite trying I just can’t get into some of the world music projects (specifically Songs of the Volcano, although I did enjoy the DVD). I greatly admire his appetite for new music and applaud his efforts to bring exposure and finance to little know artists. However, some of the resulting music just isn’t to my taste.
From a fan’s point of view, it can be a risky business buying Bob’s CDs because you never know quite what you’re going to get (admittedly the cost of a CD doesn’t represent much of a risk). I’ll keep buying them anyway; I’m looking forward to “Lumiere” and particularly “Post Industrial Blues”.
I also struggled with Bob’s bottleneck DVDs when I first started trying to learn slide. I found them too daunting and I think Michael’s DVD is much better for a beginner. Now that my playing has developed a little I find them more approachable and I’m learning a great deal. Some of the techniques, rapid picking and slid harmonics for example, don’t appeal to me so I don’t attempt to learn them, again that’s just my taste. It’s not because I feel threatened by Bob’s virtuosity (I know I’ll never be able to play like him), it’s just that the sound doesn’t appeal to my ears. Again it’s a matter of taste.
I do hope that my comments haven’t contributed to the “slightly unwelcoming feeling” that Bob has perceived. I actually consider myself to be a big fan; a shelf bulging under the weight of Bob’s DVDs, CDs, the National book and even a Broz-o-phonic slide that arrived this morning will testify to that.
This is the most welcoming and least confrontational guitar related forum I’ve found. It’s full of knowledgeable, friendly and helpful people. Bob, your contributions would be most welcome, I think you’ll find that you have many more admirers than detractors here.
Best wishes, Iain.
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Post by Bob Brozman on Jul 14, 2007 21:35:07 GMT
"it can be a risky business buying Bob’s CDs ...."
Great comment! I thank you sincerely for the rest of your post, but this one line made my day, in terms of artistic success.
I would hate to make predictable CDs!
I think you'll be able to enjoy both of the next 2, though.
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Post by Bob Brozman on Jul 14, 2007 21:36:42 GMT
Since tone is sometimes hard to read online, let me clearly say thanks for your support and for your considerate and well thought-out post.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2007 14:20:37 GMT
Thanks, Bob. I'm glad you took my comment about your CDs as a compliment, particularly if it made your day. Many artists do stagnate once they’ve found a successful formula, releasing lots of very similar pieces of artwork but nobody could accuse you of doing that. I may not necessarily enjoy all of the music your projects create but at least I feel enriched and educated for listening to them. More power to your elbow.
Cheers, Iain.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 15, 2007 14:48:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2007 14:57:49 GMT
I must have too much time on my hands -- I knocked it up this afternoon. It's quite easy really. Does anybody else want one?
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 15, 2007 15:59:02 GMT
Yes please - we all want them!!!!
Can you do a Tricone?
Shine On, Michael
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