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Post by TWANG on Mar 17, 2007 23:10:24 GMT
Has anybody tried schatten resonator pickups, in particuar the tricone version. Their sound samples sound pretty good considering they are through a twin reverb.
Yes I know an SM57 (or better!) is the best sounding way of amplifying these instruments but sometimes a pickup is good when competing with drummers, crap foldback etc.
Is there anywhere I can buy them apart from Canada on E-bay.....? And finally do they affect the acoustic sound of the instrument ? I was thinking more about the single cone versions where they must add a bit of mass and damping to the cone.
Cheers
David
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Post by LouisianaGrey on Mar 18, 2007 9:02:59 GMT
Have you looked at the website www.schattendesign.com? They have a list of international dealers (I'm one of them) so you should be able to find one in your country. I think they are really good, I use them gigging with my own guitars and I've never been able to detect any detrimental effect on the acoustic sound of the guitar. |
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Post by jakeyboy on Mar 18, 2007 15:49:28 GMT
I've got one and also think its good. Mines the passive model so i run it through an LR Baggs gig pro preamp.
Haven't noticed any difference in the acoustic sound either.
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Post by Bill Stig on Mar 20, 2007 14:55:51 GMT
Has anyone compared the schatten pickup to the more pricey Highlander pickup?
It seems that the highlander pickup uses what looks like a dynamic mic diaphragm but when I've heard a tricone fitted with one it still sounds like a piezo pickup to me, unless the design has changed since I last heard one.
Bill
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 20, 2007 18:15:06 GMT
Hi Bill, I am currently have two Schatten pickups fitted to my guitars to test & review. I feel a little embarrassed as I have had these pickups for over a year, but with one thing and another it has been impossible to deal with it before now. I too have heard very good things about Schatten pickups and will not comment further until I have tried them. I hope to publish the review in Acoustic magazine. I can tell you that I have a Highlander in my Fine Resophonic Tricone and I have to say that although it is not perfect, it is by far the best pickup I have tried so far. In 25 years of owning Tricones I have tried every conceivable way of amplifying them. For a plugged in 'cone sound' rather than a magnetic pickup type of sound, the Highlander is the one. I cannot compare it to the Schatten, as I have not tried it yet. I can tell you that fitting the Highlander Magnophonic is not easy, it has to be exactly the right distance from the T bridge, otherwise it sounds terrible. Through a good PA system with some nice frowning EQ  the Magnophonic is excellent. In saying that, I very rarely plug it in as I prefer the sound of an SM57 mic. When I have to plug in I play an electric guitar. The annoying thing about the Magnophonic is that they are very expensive and when you get one it is actually quite a simple, but effective device. I read in another thread somewhere on this forum that you are now the proud owner of a square neck Tricone - cool! Shine On, Michael. |
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Post by Bill Stig on Mar 20, 2007 18:26:54 GMT
Cheers Michael,
The tricone's not arrived yet, it's just cleared customs so I hope it'll be here tomorrow, hopefully in one piece unlike my nerves. That's why I'd joined this discussion on pickups. Let us know when you've done your review.
Bill
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Post by Ady on Apr 25, 2007 9:56:02 GMT
I put a passive schatten pickup in my style 0. I found it to be a bit 'plinky' at first (sorry can't think of a better expression) so i took it out and remounted it, I thought i had done it the same as the first time but it seemed to sound much better so my opinion is that it takes a little bit of work to get it right but once in there properly (or to the players taste) it does a good job.
the only other thing i would mention is that contrary to other info it does affect the un-amplified sound of the guitar ever so slightly as the pick up attaches to the back of the cone. it seems a little less 'bright' with the pick up attached I play with my fingers so those that use picks might not notice this so much.
ultimately i swapped all the gear out anyway and i only ever play my '0' acoustically and use another guitar for amped work.
I might stick it on e-bay soon so keep your eyes peeled if you want one...
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Post by Bill Stig on Apr 25, 2007 14:41:06 GMT
Hi Ady,
It's interesting what you have to say. It seems all acoustic pickups are fussy about the way they're fitted. The Schatten tricone pickup attaches to the t - bridge so shouldn't affect the acoustic sound too much, but I could see how the the single cone pickup could effect the sound. I've decided to try using a mic on my tricone before I let anybody fiddle with it to put a pickup in. It fell off its stand last night and I wasn't anywhere near it!! The cat and dog ran out at my screaming. For a few frightening minutes it buzzed but quickly seemed to settle down back to normal - phew.
Bill
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Post by Ady on Apr 25, 2007 21:55:48 GMT
yeah, sorry 'bout that. I realised after I'd posted that you asked particularly for tricone users.
Nevermind, glad you got some use out of my ramblings...
all the best in your search for amplfied joy,
as for your guitar having a life of it's own, I can relate, the other night mine woke me up and was ringing slightly like someone had just given it a strum several seconds before, I can only assume i was having a good old snoring fest and i had woken myself up with it resonating in my guitar. either that or a passing spirit thought it'd knock out a few licks o its way by!!!
It could probably play better than me anyway!
good job they build 'em to last tho when they start jumping around on their own!!? ...
Cheers
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the Magnophonic is excellent. In saying that, I very rarely plug it in as I prefer the sound of an SM57 mic. When I have to plug in I play an electric guitar.