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Post by slide496 on Nov 21, 2023 16:33:01 GMT
So there has been alot of media coverage of legislating Artificial Intelligence in the entertainment field across the pond here in the U.S. and I got curious and tested it using a recording from 2017 for a male lead and added a chorus. Here's a short clip - all voices are from the second or "natural voice" part.
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 22, 2023 18:43:34 GMT
looked at this last night but was mistakenly turned away thinking it to be a dead link. not true--today i clicked on "Watch on YouTube" @ bottom of dark window. wonder about this being "state of the art" programming as some of the effect driven harmonies sound like they were all huffing helium before the sampling began. can state that a DigiTech "smartshift" IPS33 [circa 1989] can render more life-like vocal harmonies. provided you are smartshift enough to tell the machine what key the song is in. [which i still can't/couldn't do well when i bought mine from Pro Music in Fairbanks AK in the mid 1990's] other than that (my opinion only), it is only useful for composing single note symphonies on the guitar. www.muzines.co.uk/articles/digitech-ips33-smartshift/114mitchfit |
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Post by slide496 on Nov 22, 2023 21:52:01 GMT
Interesting article - I guess the ideas have been around for a while.
I use either "Moises" or "Vocal Isolator" applications to separate vocal and instrumental for study purposes. They are in the youtube description if anyone is interested.
When the Moises application generates files it includes a notation of the the key, beats per minute, khz and provides a metronome. The description for one of Robert Johnson's "Come on In My Kitchen" for example, is "Bb major-91bpm-452hz".
Also with Seventh Strings "Transcribe" you can slow down, change the pitch of an original file. With the key from Moises I can also reduce or raise the original guitar portion in the vicinity of what my vocal requires if I need to.
Harriet
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 22, 2023 23:44:16 GMT
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Post by slide496 on Nov 24, 2023 17:29:38 GMT
Just to add also I tested the key and khz settings from Moises, the vocal isolator I mentioned earlier, for the guitar portion of Fred McDowell's "Going Away", that I have been working on, which were noted key of A at 433hz.
Tuned to open A at 433hz with my snark tuner and my guitar came really close to the the key of the recording. I hadn't made much note of those settings prior to this post
I think that for me is more useful to me than the digital voice conversion aspect moving forward... sigh.
Harriet
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 26, 2023 20:57:14 GMT
slide496,
can see that i should have been more specific in my posting. this unit has no harmonizing abilities.
was thinking more along the lines of a recording tool. one that is all included in one circuit, without any radio frequency interference picked up from cables [read-antennas] that would be required to join any separate devices that are included in this unit.
for the style of your recording, [guitar microphone and vocal microphone] both could be processed at the same time. in a live recording format with both signals preset to levels you like.
doubt you would have much use for all of the onboard FX included, or even find them pleasing.
[however, they can be a lot of fun to just play around with]
the features that could/would be useful for home recording with microphone input:
the noise gate function for both channels. set it to trigger above ambient background sounds you don't want.
volume balancing between guit/vocal.
an equalizer for both channels. enhance or lessen the frequencies the microphone picks up. [is "voiced" for]
slight delay and/or reverb at levels you choose for either to "thicken" recorded signal.
easy to use format that doesn't require an extensive amount of study beforehand to utilize effectively.
usefulness of those possibilities can be very subjective to desired project outcome and the overall "feel" of finished product that different people desire, however.
fr'instance lots of people feel that colorizing the olde black-and-white movie classics is obscene. myself included. i think it is a positive aspect that tastes vary among end product viewers.
hope this helps in some way,
mitchfit
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Post by slide496 on Nov 27, 2023 7:08:39 GMT
Using a digital system, you can, if you want, record 2 usb mics at once by either creating an aggregate USB mic in an Apple System, and in Windows you apparently need an app that does the same thing. Or if you use XLR mics, there are compatible audio interfaces that record to a DAW. Here's an article on aggregate mics if any forum members are interested. Digital Audio Workstations (DAWs) have the"useful home editing features" you mention: - Protools, Logic Pro Garageband are a few. www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/aggregate-audio-devices-and-drivers-for-pc-and-mac/Can you describe what you record to and what the output is with the system you are suggesting if you are interested in presenting a youtube video of some sort -I use pictures- or posting an audio clip in soundcloud or similar? Forum members might be interested in that information. Harriet |
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 28, 2023 2:45:53 GMT
Harriet,
would be hard to explain all of the digging it'll take to excavate the large, heavy SKB case most of it is all in. it's a vestax MR 66 recorder, bad heavy unit. [he said whining like a big olde dawg] a DOD R-430 stereo EQ. the IPS-33 smart shift. an active stereo crossover from Rane. a DBX 166 XL stereo compressor/noise gate.
and the digitech 2102 studio twin disc processor that would have worked for almost all of the above except the active crossover unit.
but will commit to dig it out soon if you will commit to helping me learn to upload some analog magnetic tapes stored in the cases with same . you seem much more adept at all of that than itself.
fair warning--pretty much digitally challenged on this end.
'cides, got some newtone 12-52 sets coming in soon, and would like to record the student model anyway.
mitchfit
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