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Post by radiostar on Jun 30, 2023 17:45:59 GMT
No, not National, that other fellow. Who has one? Thoughts please? Thinking of using on wooden bodied regal reso.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 30, 2023 18:08:20 GMT
Hello Radiostar,
Welcome to our forum.
Hotplate-style pickups can be great, but it all depends on what pickups are in them.
You can't fit one onto that Dobro-style guitar in the photo, they only fit on National-style guitars.
You also need to be careful about the fit because the screw holes won't match up to another brand, and the height of the dome and the handrest varies on different makes. The screw holes on a wood bodied guitar are not a problem, so that part is workable.
So a Regal National-style guitar may or may not work with a hotplate. Which model is it?
If you want to try one out to see if it fits and whether you like it, I might be able to help you.
Shine On Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Jun 30, 2023 18:40:24 GMT
Hot plates work well on biscuit bridge reso because there is lots of space at the edge of the cone. This means the pickup can be fitted not too close to the bridge, the nearer the bridge the more treble the sound and less bass. It’s not impossible to fit one to a spider bridge cover plate, but ,the pickup has to be very thin ( like a Goldfoil or similar) so you don’t hit the spider and you also have to be very careful with the volume and jack as the spider and the edge of the cone get in the way. It’s to ( as MM says) be avoided Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 30, 2023 18:57:17 GMT
I have a spider that we believe was made by Rudi Dopyera, it has been reshaped to accommodate a pickup. I’ll dig it out and post a photo.
Shine On Michael
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Post by radiostar on Jun 30, 2023 19:29:48 GMT
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Post by radiostar on Jun 30, 2023 19:31:16 GMT
So a Regal National-style guitar may or may not work with a hotplate. Which model is it? Unsure, can't see a model number anywhere
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 30, 2023 20:09:15 GMT
RadioStar, post a photo of the guitar, or of the same model. Is it for this guitar? Shine On Michael
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Post by radiostar on Jun 30, 2023 20:18:19 GMT
Yes
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Post by Michael Messer on Jun 30, 2023 20:37:10 GMT
It won’t fit that guitar, everything about it is different.
There are ways to fit a pickup on that guitar, but a hotplate is not it.
I will let you know more tomorrow when I’m back home
Meanwhile maybe Pete can offer some advice
Shine On Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Jul 1, 2023 7:38:14 GMT
Without the guitar in front of me it’s hard to be certain. Dobro cover plates are not all identical and the depth the cone is set in will change the space between spider and plate. Then there’s the hight of the saddle.
You can measure these things and see how much room you have for a pickup ( if the instrument is to be fretted then you will need a bit more space beneath the strings to allow for the downward deflection of the strings)
Your pickup should not touch the spider,and fixing it to the plate is also a challenge, Biscuit hot plates have plenty of space for screws and springs,
More later when I can get some bits together. Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 1, 2023 8:27:00 GMT
Radiostar, Your best bet on that guitar is to fit a pickup where the three holes are in the body. Something that sticks on, like a Sixtus or a Krivo, and run the cable inside the guitar to a jack socket.
Shine On Michael
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Post by radiostar on Jul 1, 2023 9:15:46 GMT
yup, my thougts too, though I have been offered another solution, which I will check out and report back.
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Post by pete1951 on Jul 1, 2023 9:20:31 GMT
I don’t have a guitar with a standard Dobro plate and spider at the moment, but I think Michael’s solution is best. There are just too many problems to overcome. Pete
There maybe someone on the forum who has done this, so don’t rush if you don’t have to. Someone might have found the answer.
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