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Post by northernbrass on Feb 17, 2023 13:25:26 GMT
Hi all. I've recently bought a brass bodied ozark 3515nbe. I've noticed that where the bottom of the neck (belive this is called the heal) is seperating on the back side of the guitar so that I can see light behind it. Looking into the gap I cannot see any bolts or any dowels but when the tension is off the strings I can push the neck back slightly to seal the gap. Is this something I can sort with glue or a bigger issue? I've looked through the f-holes into the guitar and there is a big brace of wood that the neck is connected to. If it is a glue fix problem what glue do I use as its a metal body Photos of issue are here: ibb.co/pX5hWvJibb.co/fCXWCch |
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 17, 2023 13:51:30 GMT
Most metal resonator guitars have no glue between heal and body. The neck is held in by the neckstick. There are 2 possible reasons for the heal gap. 1) the neckstick has parted company from the neck , could have come unglued or cracked. 2) a prop between the underside of the neckstick and the body has come loose.
You might be able to see the join between neck and neckstick through an F hole. Have a good look with a torch and see if you can shine a light on the problem.
Pete
Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 17, 2023 14:04:24 GMT
Hello Northernbrass, Welcome to my forum and to our friendly community. Back in 2005 I reviewed the Ozark 3515B for Guitarist magazine. I think the BE is essentially the same instrument, but as I have not had one in my hands, I can't be sure of that. You cannot just glue that heel back into place. This is not built like an acoustic guitar and to repair that properly it needs to go to an experienced and recommended resonator repairer, of which there are very few. It is not an uncommon thing to see in resonator guitars that have been through some type of trauma, but it must be repaired properly. If you did not knock the guitar over, drop it, or do anything else that could have broken it, you maybe should talk to the dealer you bought it from. If they can't help you, try the distributor, Stentor Music Co. Here is their URL... www.stentor-music.comI hope that is helpful information. Shine On Michael |
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 17, 2023 18:02:51 GMT
Both of the reasons for the neck movement are ( as Michael says) best left to someone who has repaired such a problem before . I noticed in your photos that the heal already has a chip out of it. This most commonly happens when the neck is off. Did you get it second hand? A photo of the dots on the finger board that goes over the body will possibly show as the finger board extension is screwed to the top and the MoP dots will have been disturbed.
Pete
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Post by ken1953clark on Feb 18, 2023 10:00:22 GMT
Not sure what a 3515NBE is. N signifies a steel body, B=brass so how it can be steel and brass bodied I’ve no idea. E signifies engraved so BE (Brass Engraved) is just the prettier version of the B. They also do a BTE Brass Thinline Engraved with a pick up and stuff. I used to have a BTE but it was very unbalanced, too body heavy, if you let go of the neck it would hit the floor
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 18, 2023 10:13:56 GMT
Not sure what a 3515NBE is. N signifies a steel body, B=brass so how it can be steel and brass bodied I’ve no idea. E signifies engraved so BE (Brass Engraved) is just the prettier version of the B. They also do a BTE Brass Thinline Engraved with a pick up and stuff. I used to have a BTE but it was very unbalanced, too body heavy, if you let go of the neck it would hit the floor Ken, In 2005 I wrote this as a footnote of a review I did for ACOUSTIC magazine.... While writing this review I was unsure about what the 3515B body is actually made from. I contacted Stentor (UK distributors) who assured me that this particular model is solid brass, yet to me the inside of the guitar looked like steel and it was magnetic.
The day after writing the review I visited Dave King (UK National Reso-Phonic official repairer), who was fitting a pickup in an Ozark 3515BE. The spec on the Ozark website states that the 3515BE has a brass body, but the guitar I saw at Dave King’s workshop had a steel body. Also, the coverplate on the 3515BE was the correct thickness, whereas the coverplate on the 3515B which I had for review was too thin. So I can only assume the coverplates and body materials vary, depending on what metal is available.
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 18, 2023 13:11:51 GMT
I have had a few Ozark resos through my hands and most ( all?) had very well finished ( but heavy) bodies, with lots of decoration. The sound variation was enormous, some quite good others rather dull.
I guess that quality control was not very good ( I haven’t had one for repair for several years, hopefully it has improved)
Are all Ozark guitars made in Korea?
Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 18, 2023 13:32:25 GMT
Some Ozark instruments are made in China, but the resonator guitars are all from Korea.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by northernbrass on Feb 21, 2023 13:42:03 GMT
Hi everyone and thank you for the replies.
The guitar is defiently stamped as a 3515nbe on the label in the body and has a made in Korea sticker.
I have since been in touch with Beltona guitars who are going to have a look at it and change the neck angle and bring it all back in line! Fingers crossed its not too expensive
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 21, 2023 17:43:01 GMT
Great, it will be in very safe hands.
Let us know what the problem was
Pete
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Post by snakehips on Feb 21, 2023 22:33:40 GMT
Hi there !
I just got another guitar back from Steve Evans of Beltona.
He is as ace on non-reso guitars as much as reaonator guitars, ukulele’s etc.
Trust me when I say your guitar will come back from Steve better than it ever was !!!
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Post by leeophonic on Feb 22, 2023 14:27:09 GMT
Steve is a good call and will bring the best out of the old guitar.
He worked on my Avatar (not a blue skinned jungle dweller but the Golden fiddle edge) with great success.
Regards
Lee
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