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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 18:31:58 GMT
I have had the magic paint for 6 years or so...last week was the second attempt. The first attempt a few years ago was successful on several factory primed NRP coverplates, but the bodies I primed with brand X spray grey primer were a disaster...wiped them down and reprimed with automotive grade 1K primer. So tried last week with promising but still unsatisfactory results. I believe was still too cold in the garage (55F) and used cheap chip brush. Will wipe em down someday and try again...   |
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 1, 2020 18:53:27 GMT
Fred, I think for an isolation duco attempt, you have done okay there. The front looks better than the back. I guess that is because it is not such a large surface. Are those the brush marks running from top to bottom on the back?
Keep busy at home and stay safe.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 19:24:47 GMT
Michael, others, Yes I used a chip brush with relatively stiff bristles, and as I brushed I saw the lines. Will try with a fine brush, like I believe I used on my first attempt a few years ago. Aside from temperature, I may have sanded the primer too finely...maybe needs some tooth. And probably most important, I over-brushed some areas which is a definite no-no. Sadly, for the world, I will probably have the time to work on this again soon...
Getting a lot of projects done being stuck in the house. My best to all, keep safe, stay healthy, get well, and praying this thing gets under control...
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Post by bonzo on Apr 1, 2020 23:58:30 GMT
Hi Fred, good to see you've picked up on your project again! You may remember you commented positively on my efforts a while back, on a Duolian and a couple of Republics. A good way to get around the brush marks and add to the ducco look is to 'break' the finish. A technique I use is to dab the paint with a scrunched up plastic bag or something similar as it's drying. This removes the brush marks and leaves a nice broken effect along the lines of a ducco look. Glad you're well. Best wishes and good health to you all, John    |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 0:25:30 GMT
John, the paint I have MUST be essentially the same stuff used by The Dopyeras...I have a few quarts but the company went out of business last year. There may be another source but not sure. It seems to “break” well and crystalize on its own. Maybe it is drying too quickly, but if you lay it on and then touch it a moment later...game over...your project is toast... but I will think about what you said. Thanks.
Best to you and yours...i aways enjoy your posts as well as many others on this wonderful website...
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 2, 2020 7:19:11 GMT
Slowing the drying time maybe worth trying. Making a plastic sheeting ‘box’ for the body and adding an open pot of paint thinners so the air inside does not allow quick evaporation might work.
Pete
Keep up the good work
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 2, 2020 7:24:25 GMT
Michael, others, Yes I used a chip brush with relatively stiff bristles, and as I brushed I saw the lines. Will try with a fine brush, like I believe I used on my first attempt a few years ago. Aside from temperature, I may have sanded the primer too finely...maybe needs some tooth. And probably most important, I over-brushed some areas which is a definite no-no. Sadly, for the world, I will probably have the time to work on this again soon... Getting a lot of projects done being stuck in the house. My best to all, keep safe, stay healthy, get well, and praying this thing gets under control... Fred, Stay safe and keep in touch with us. Shine On Michael |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 9:07:40 GMT
You're almost nailing it Fred. Will it spray from a gun?
TT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 14:47:13 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions and comments...all good ideas. I dont usually look at things from a too-scientific viewpoint, so these are good points. The first brushing attempt on a cookie can lid was so promising that I didnt consider spraying...I only have a preval unit...and thought it would be too thin. Brushing the NRP coverplates also came out very well. I didnt want to thin the stuff, and never used “retarder” though may try that... was also wondering if a hair dryer blowing warm air would do something good.
But as has been said before this is very noxious dangerous stuff... an using a vapor respirator but it leaves a lingering odor in the (luckily detached) garage.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 2, 2020 15:04:33 GMT
Fred, don't use retarder or hot air - the crystals form as the solvents evaporate off in ambient conditions. Just mix the paint really well and apply it EVENLY with a good quality brush, let it flow out, let it find it's own level and then don't touch it - be patient.  I just hope that your paint isn't too old and the resin binder in it hasn't started cross-linking. Best of luck and keep us informed. |
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Post by snakehips on Apr 4, 2020 12:27:31 GMT
Hi there !
Great efforts !
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