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Post by slide496 on Mar 5, 2020 22:01:41 GMT
Tallsailor - I think that the 12 fret gretch is similar to the 12 fret Art and Lutherie Roadhouse, which is also same size as my 12 fret harmony 60's stellas and the 1930's supertone stencil. I've played both. This is a comparison in size to the 14 fret Brett which is along the lines of the Waterloo being considered. (Pix was taken earlier for discussion with the Reverb seller). Gretch makes a 14 fret that I tried and it's a bit smaller bodied with a voice in the family of the ladderbraced sound. It's called "Gretsch Guitars G5021E Limited Edition Rancher Penguin Parlor Acoustic-Electric Guitar Casino Gold" Click to enlarge:
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Post by tallsailor on Mar 5, 2020 23:19:00 GMT
Tallsailor - I think that the 12 fret gretch is similar to the 12 fret Art and Lutherie Roadhouse, which is also same size as my 12 fret harmony 60's stellas and the 1930's supertone stencil. I've played both. This is a comparison in size to the 14 fret Brett which is along the lines of the Waterloo being considered. (Pix was taken earlier for discussion with the Reverb seller). Gretch makes a 14 fret that I tried and it's a bit smaller bodied with a voice in the family of the ladderbraced sound. It's called "Gretsch Guitars G5021E Limited Edition Rancher Penguin Parlor Acoustic-Electric Guitar Casino Gold" Click to enlarge: Thank you, Harriet. I have noticed that Gretsch Penguin (how could you miss it!), but to me it just looks, I dunno, kind of odd? Plus we're back to laminates again, of course. I think I might need to revise my thinking about 12-fretters!
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Post by Andymccann on Mar 6, 2020 10:13:09 GMT
Have you got a shortlist yet? We have covered a lot of ground here!
Is there a particular budget?
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Post by tallsailor on Mar 6, 2020 10:47:20 GMT
Have you got a shortlist yet? We have covered a lot of ground here! Is there a particular budget? The shortlist is now ten times as long as it was when I started! I found Glenns Guitars this morning, which hasn't helped. I feel a day out in north London coming on. It's been a good discussion, though, and I've learned a lot, so thanks to everyone who has contributed. I'm not wedded to a £ figure.
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Post by gordon on Mar 6, 2020 10:55:01 GMT
Working with Glenns Guitars is a good idea. A few years back he sold me a really nice Kalamazoo, it's moved on since but it was a sweet guitar. It had more going on than the Waterloo that's modelled after it, at least the couple I've tried. The Stella and the Hauver that Tom Feldmann is selling with sound good, especially the Stella, but they're not cheap, especially when you add customs fees.
Have fun trying out lots of different guitars!
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Post by tallsailor on Mar 6, 2020 11:44:05 GMT
Working with Glenns Guitars is a good idea. A few years back he sold me a really nice Kalamazoo, it's moved on since but it was a sweet guitar. It had more going on than the Waterloo that's modelled after it, at least the couple I've tried. The Stella and the Hauver that Tom Feldmann is selling with sound good, especially the Stella, but they're not cheap, especially when you add customs fees. Have fun trying out lots of different guitars! Yes, they'll be dearer, of course, but a specialist dealer is probably probably safer than eBay if I decide to go vintage.
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Post by catsmiler on Mar 6, 2020 12:03:29 GMT
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Post by tallsailor on Mar 6, 2020 12:25:49 GMT
Thanks, that one was definitely on the shortlist. A little wary of buying from overseas just in case there's a problem, but it's tempting, that's for sure!
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Post by catsmiler on Mar 6, 2020 12:31:06 GMT
You can try it in London on March 26 apparently.
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Post by 5slide on Mar 14, 2020 18:22:48 GMT
I have a 1935 Gibson L-00 and it is wonderful. Of course tone is subjective, but to me, it is one of the best sounding acoustics I've ever played. I think I got mine for a good price as there was a repair done to the side. It is not a collectors instrument, the Gibson logo has worn off the headstock, there is also a lot of play wear, none of which has any effect on the sound or playability of course!
Pre-war Gibsons have always been expensive but the prices of these seem to have gone up since I got mine, looking at some for sale they are going for £3k upwards, but I'm sure there will be a bargain to be had if you search long and hard enough.
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Post by tallsailor on Mar 14, 2020 19:58:46 GMT
I have a 1935 Gibson L-00 and it is wonderful. Of course tone is subjective, but to me, it is one of the best sounding acoustics I've ever played. I think I got mine for a good price as there was a repair done to the side. It is not a collectors instrument, the Gibson logo has worn off the headstock, there is also a lot of play wear, none of which has any effect on the sound or playability of course! Pre-war Gibsons have always been expensive but the prices of these seem to have gone up since I got mine, looking at some for sale they are going for £3k upwards, but I'm sure there will be a bargain to be had if you search long and hard enough. Could be a long wait! A Kalamazoo would be a fallback option, I guess.
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Post by 5slide on Mar 14, 2020 20:01:07 GMT
I have a 1935 Gibson L-00 and it is wonderful. Of course tone is subjective, but to me, it is one of the best sounding acoustics I've ever played. I think I got mine for a good price as there was a repair done to the side. It is not a collectors instrument, the Gibson logo has worn off the headstock, there is also a lot of play wear, none of which has any effect on the sound or playability of course! Pre-war Gibsons have always been expensive but the prices of these seem to have gone up since I got mine, looking at some for sale they are going for £3k upwards, but I'm sure there will be a bargain to be had if you search long and hard enough. Could be a long wait! A Kalamazoo would be a fallback option, I guess. Indeed, a Kalamazoo Kg14 would be a great choice too.
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