Post by Pickers Ditch on Mar 18, 2019 10:35:21 GMT
My other concern is the tailpiece spacing - the nut and saddle can be cut to requirements so I reckon from tailpiece to saddle the strings will be "fanned" as the tailpiece outside string holes (E -e) are set narrower than they should be, too. A classic case, as MM says, of stock parts being used instead of parts built for purpose. This is not a major problem - the nut and saddle will be replaced; the saddle having deeper notches than normal to hold the strings in the slightly wider positions.
This will take a week or four to get organized and a set of Newtone 12s will be fitted so's I can tune down to open C.
PD, I don't know you will be able to find a 12 string national tailpiece very easily - that is one of this issues that I feel was "overlooked" in the design. Maybe there are connections for that in the UK - I didn't find anything in the US
I played one of these in a (generally very good) shop an the setup was dreadful, the string spacing is way out. I was almost like playing a guitar with 12 single string courses, rather then 6 double courses. The problem is at the saddle and nut. I wouldn't worry too much about changing the tailpiece, all tailpiece designs will need some sort of fanning, and the tailpiece on the Statesboro is a copy of the one on the original Oscar Schmidt "Westbrook" guitar it's based on.
Post by Michael Messer on Mar 18, 2019 16:40:23 GMT
It is based on the Westbrook and you are right about the tailpiece, they will all fan out the strings. I just think that more solid tailpiece might look and work better. But to be fair, you and PD have played one of these guitars and I haven't. I am just going by what I see in the photos. By the sound of everything that has been said on this thread, these guitars really do need a good setup done by a luthier that understands this type of instrument.
I’m interested. Do all you 12 string Stella owners play tuned down a few steps? I’m pretty sure the bracing inside a 12 is the same as a 6?
Same Bracing for the most part, maybe bulked up a little, but a different scale, the Oscar Schmidt 12ers 26 1/2" would be too much for concert pitch, with light (10) string you might get up to D but I wouldn't want to take it much farther, regal used a more standard 25" scale, but some (like Tonk Brothers) went the other way and took the scale length as far as 27"
Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 25, 2019 10:49:31 GMT
Nut and saddle now sorted with the original tailpiece, strings fanned out. Need to practise a bit more with the fitted 10s tuned to D to get used to the spacing then, hopefully at the weekend, I'll fit the heavier Newtones and tune her down to B.