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Post by slideplayer14 on Oct 5, 2018 14:29:48 GMT
Hey everybody, I have a Regal RD 3 Triolian with a National Hot Rod cone and I'm thinking about getting an actual National. It would be a wood body guitar and it would need to be similar in size (especially a thin neck) like my Regal. I was looking at the National Esparita and it looks good and on youtube it sounds good. What do you guys think? Any other National come to mind?
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Post by resotonic on Oct 5, 2018 14:48:33 GMT
Nationals do not have thin necks; they're about 47mm or 1 3/4"(minimum) across the nut. Might be a custom order for a thin neck.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Oct 5, 2018 16:11:22 GMT
If I was in your boots I would buy a MM Blues'28 instead of the Estralita - as good, if not better, a guitar and will save you loads of money, too. I've had several NRPs in the past including a Jazz Blues, sold it along with the others, which is very similar to the Estralita and nowadays my go to reso is my MM Blues'28. All IMHO of course and even if I know MM quite well, no affiliatons etc. etc.
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Post by bonzo on Oct 5, 2018 16:54:32 GMT
I concur with PD. MM guitars are generally rated up there with the modern national resos. I've got the 28, couldn't be more pleased. Just stuck a sixtus pickup on it, WOW! (And of course you save loads of dosh!) No affiliation, other than as a happy owner!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by gordon on Oct 5, 2018 19:06:35 GMT
Another vote here for a Blues 28, nice guitars. National /NRP necks aren't thin at all, and have a wide fretboard, more than 1 3/4" I think. Of course try some out, but you may be just as happy or happier with a MM guitar.
Gordon
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Post by slideplayer14 on Oct 5, 2018 22:00:47 GMT
Thank you for all the replies. That is a beautiful guitar and it does look comparable to my Regal in size. What does it usually go for? I am still have it my head that I would eventually like to own a National in my life. Is there no National guitar comparable to the MM Blues 28?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:35:47 GMT
When you say 'own a national' do you include / mean owning an modern 'national resophonic'? If so, there is no tangible history attached to them at all, and it would just be a case of owning a good / expensive guitar. I have been genuinely unmoved each time I've had one shown to me / played one, although I do get a buzz from holding / playing a vintage 'NATIONAL'. TT
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Oct 6, 2018 10:17:00 GMT
Hi Slideplayer 14. If you are in the US you could try The Twelfth Fret Guitar Shop in Canada - MM distributor for North America. MM Guitars are only available direct from his website and in Canada from The Twelfth Fret Guitar Shop - www.12fret.com
Just a suggestion, that's all.
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Post by jono1uk on Oct 6, 2018 10:29:35 GMT
yup i would defo go for an MM Blues....
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Post by orbital on Oct 6, 2018 13:32:28 GMT
Hi Slideplayer14,
In answer to your question, the MM Blues28' is based on the original National String Instrument Corporation (wood bodied) Triolian from 1928.
There's a good YouTube video comparing both guitars. Someone who knows how may post a link.
National Resophonic Guitars also make a copy of the wood bodied Triolian.
Also, National Resophonic make a copy of the National El Trovador which has a 44.5mm nut.
Having owned an MM Blues28' these are very close in specs and tonally to the original Triolian and at a fraction of the cost.
Really depends what you're after. Hope that all helps.
Best...
Phil.
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Post by slideplayer14 on Oct 6, 2018 14:57:33 GMT
Hi Slideplayer14, In answer to your question, the MM Blues28' is based on the original National String Instrument Corporation (wood bodied) Triolian from 1928. There's a good YouTube video comparing both guitars. Someone who knows how may post a link. National Resophonic Guitars also make a copy of the wood bodied Triolian. Also, National Resophonic make a copy of the National El Trovador which has a 44.5mm nut. Having owned an MM Blues28' these are very close in specs and tonally to the original Triolian and at a fraction of the cost. Really depends what you're after. Hope that all helps. Best... Phil. Phil, thank you, this answers all my questions. The El Trovador sounds like what was looking for, but looking at those price points an MM Blues 28 sounds like it's worth looking into. I am in Los Angeles area, not sure where to start looking for one I can try out, but I will definitely look up that video that compares them. Thanks again.
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Post by lonelyjelly on Oct 7, 2018 11:02:02 GMT
Here’s the comparison Phil mentioned. I watched/listened to it a fair few times myself before buying my MMB28 (which I may have to sell...noooo!). T’is a shame you’re so far away or I’d invite you over to try it out. Anyway hope the video helps. Lewis
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 14:21:02 GMT
Very good thread going here. Agree 100% that holding and playing a vintage all original National is special...but to me the major part of that is the big V neck. So if you want thin, not for you. Gotta say the MM Blues 28 is a gem. Go for it.
Just for fun, close your eyes and place your finger on the time-line dot on the video above, and slide it left-right and try to guess if you are hearing the vintage or MM28. Very impressive result for the 28...MM must have a time machine in his factory...
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Post by gaucho on Oct 11, 2018 13:06:11 GMT
I would also say the MM Bluesif you can put your hands on one. I have an Estralita Delux and a few vintage Nationals and they all have chunky necks (which I prefer). I also had an early 90's NRP Radio Tone (not that cut away thing!) which had a killer tone, but the neck was too skinny for me. I sold it and bought the Estralita. If that RT had a fatter neck, I'd definitely still have it. On recordings, I can't tell the difference between the RT on the vintage Duolians I have/had!
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