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Post by jono1uk on Apr 7, 2018 12:35:28 GMT
Looking at stomp boxes .. what does everybody who has one use? Does it have to be used through a bass amp or P.A? Would it work through a guitar amp with bass up and mid / treble down?
Jon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 18:30:06 GMT
For what it's worth : I explored the use of feet for creating rhythm since years, and made several (around 30 last times I counted) systems, from very simple to highly sophisticated (like 8 pads triggering samplers and looping).
Now I never found a commercial stomp box that pleased me.
The simplest form I make :
- a very crude piezo disk (you got them for like 5 bucks a dozen on eBay or something, buy the ones that already have bits of wires soldered, soldering the ceramic part is not easy), glued on a piece of thin plywood, or a bit of foam, or anything you'll feel work for the purpose, like big rubber band you slip on your shoe, i.e. You'll find that you need two things : 1/avoiding the thing to slip everywhere when you stomp it and you find yourself trying to regain control of it when you are playing in front of an audience, all the while keeping the groove, which is uncomfortable to say the least, and 2/the feet repeated movements are rapidly tiring your legs muscles if you don't take care. For example, stomping with the heel is less tiring than with the tip of the foot (left foot if you're a righty, or else your guitar will bounce like a rabbit). You'll also find that the higher the surface you stomp on, the faster the fatigue (it seems to me that none of the stomp boxes makers have ever tried their things more than 5 mn.)
- the signal goes into an EQ pedal (the cheapest I found is the DanElectro Fish&Chips, or have a look at Craigslist, you don't need any hi-tech), and now you have a pretty effective noise making thingy which can deliver a lot of different sounds, from kic omph to click clacs, when plugged in any available input of any amp or PA you have at hand.
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Post by jono1uk on Apr 7, 2018 18:39:55 GMT
Thank you .i would prefer to purchase one..so if anybody has any recommendations please?
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 7, 2018 18:57:46 GMT
Hi Jono, I don't use a stomp box, so I know nothing about them at all. I spend my life trying not to stomp my foot because for me it detracts from the guitar rhythms. If you are not careful it can replace the thumb of your picking hand, and I hear that in many players that use stomp boxes. Occasionally if I do want that thump, I use my foot on the mic stand, or just the wooden stage does it. Using them for playing actual rhythms, rather than stomping out time, and becoming a proficient foot percussionist is a whole different thing and can be very cool. See Canadian folk musician, Bill Bourne, for examples of that. I have also seen solo Cajun accordionists playing amazing foot percussion while playing. I know nothing about them, but this looks okay for 35 quid..... www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FMWZ8G2Shine On Michael
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Post by jono1uk on Apr 7, 2018 19:45:38 GMT
Thanks Michael ..i am looking at having a "bass" beat kind of effect when i tap my foot ..i find i am tapping my foot all the time when i play acoustic or reso.
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Post by richclough on Apr 7, 2018 19:59:49 GMT
I've tried quite a few of these. I've been looking for a bass thump without much attack. Here's my experience:
- Ellis guitar stomp boxes from Australia (nice woods, not much else). Just a piezo in a box I think. Sensitive to type of footwear used and where stomped on. Needs a lot of EQ. Sold. - Logjam Prolog. Better than the Ellis, but still needed a lot of EQ. Sensitive to type of footwear. Needs a lot of EQ. Sold. - Porchboard Microbass - Deep bass sound, mixes well with guitar due to minimal attack. Sounds great through a full frequency PA. Lots of positive comments with live use. Really expensive though. Not footwear sensitive. Not great in recordings - sounds a bit synthy, like an 808 kick. Kept. - Logjam Rattlebox. Without EQ, sounds like snare...ish. Sensitive to footwear. Needs a lot of EQ. Haven't used it live yet, but it records well with a cloth over it to tame the highs and some heavy EQ. Not piezo, dynamic mic capsule driven. Kept.
Cheers, Rich
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 20:15:07 GMT
Sorry Jono, as a hardcore DIY guy I have a tendency to forget that not anybody is in the same mood. Beside, making a stomp box is such an easy project that I was assuming this was implied in the question. My mistake.
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Post by slide496 on Apr 7, 2018 21:49:06 GMT
Its not the same IMHO to tap along and find a stompbox that will do the same. There's a link to the outfit that made this elaborate kit that might be of interest in the description on this video- they have all types of devices and might be able to advise.
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Post by jono1uk on Apr 7, 2018 22:33:15 GMT
i want something Similar to what Seasick Steve or Gwyn Ashton use ... which is like what Michael posted ..
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 7, 2018 23:28:19 GMT
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 8, 2018 9:28:14 GMT
I think Jono has already said that he wants to buy a ready made one. As far as I know, Jono wants this for home use only.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 15:17:56 GMT
i want something Similar to what Seasick Steve or Gwyn Ashton use ... which is like what Michael posted .. Gwyn Ashton rarely uses a stompbox these days. Hes uses Bill Ward's old kick drum for most gigs. TT
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Post by jono1uk on Apr 9, 2018 16:07:30 GMT
Well Friday night he did ...
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 9, 2018 16:12:14 GMT
Jono, have you found a stomp box? I am interested to know which one you choose.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by jono1uk on Apr 9, 2018 17:10:32 GMT
Hi Michael
Not yet ... a particular nice guitar has come to my attention this afternoon so we will see how that goes ..then have another look at stomps..
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