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Post by mitchfit on Oct 11, 2014 0:42:38 GMT
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 11, 2014 0:15:37 GMT
Zak, +1 from me, and the other 3 guys who keep on talking too loudly when i'm trynna post.** :-0 likely their fault about messed up info in above postings, yeah, that's it...THEIR FAULT... other un-imaginated people in agreement here, and finally some input on pigtronix' new supro re-issue amps. www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/501295-supro-new-amps-whats-verdict.htmlmitchfit ** i ~think~ a Frank Zappa quote, but can not verify on the 'net: there are only 7 people in the world who understand my songs, and i'm 4 of them.
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 10, 2014 23:09:56 GMT
slide496, self confessed amp obsess-er here. agree with MM as to the suitability of 6V6 for [my impression of] your desired sound. single ended would allow even order harmonix through, same phase cancelled out in a P-P design when trading output duties 60 times a second. [USA] even more enamored with 6 volt preamp circuits for 6V6 output tubes. can't put the difference of 12__7 and 6__7 preamp sonic traits into usable terminology, you gotta try same for a true appreciation. being a true hollow body, your epi will be prone to squeal like a piggie when cranked up, 'specially with humbuckers due to their higher output. another reason to consider avoiding P-P circuits, IMO. however, if intended for live performing use w/o a PA system, snakehips' advice about increased head room is another variable to add into the equation. personally, i like EL84 for electric [read R&R electric] tones...but once again, roll with MM about 6V6 for my perception as to your target tone. good pricing on a single ended EL84 bad cat at TDPRI, [usual disclaimers] and not too distant to consider a live demo before shelling out american inflationary notes? www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php?product=42109&title=bad-cat-cougar-5-watt-1x12-quot&cat=22 looked for past thread posting about vintage 47 to no avail, they ~are~ an excellent choice for authentic retro-amps. was a sweet deal on one of their 1942 el capitan mdls at the gear page 'coupla weeks back. was about 1/2 price due to being purchased without the aluminum trim, may still be listed, membership required to view ads. same ~is~ a 6 volt pre/6V6 P-P out circuit, about/likely less wattage as an EL84 pair due to cooler jurasic period biasing. www.thegearpage.netanother option i'd ~highly~ recommend in champ flavors, [his specialty]---contact "muchxs" @: www.tdpri.com/forum/index.phpuse his email address @ his profile page, as his forum mailbox usually runneth over. tell him your requirements/intended use. he's an olde school electrotech who has forgotten more about vintage amp circuits than many will ever know. [was responsible for designing and installing the first mega-track recording studio in NYC back in the day...] i have [more than] enough faith in him to have ordered a "one-off*" amp build from him, currently being assembled. mitchfit * actually, "two-off" as he's plannning to build a likely tweequed circuit for hisself also. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PROOF READ THEIR POSTINGS BEFORE HITTING THE "CREATE" ICON. WAS Zak71 WHO ADVISED 6V6. SEE MESSAGES AT INBOX, LIKELY FROM HIM...THE BAD CAT IS IN WISCONSIN, NOT THE HEW HAMPSHIRE STUCK IN MY REMAINING 3 FUNCTIONAL BRAIN CELLS! {blush}
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 10, 2014 22:47:32 GMT
slide496, self confessed amp obsess-er here. agree with MM as to the suitability of 6V6 for [my impression of] your desired sound. single ended would allow even order harmonix through, same phase cancelled out in a P-P design when trading output duties 60 times a second. [USA] even more enamored with 6 volt preamp circuits for 6V6 output tubes. can't put the difference of 12__7 and 6__7 preamp sonic traits into usable terminology, you gotta try same for a true appreciation. being a true hollow body, your epi will be prone to squeal like a piggie when cranked up, 'specially with humbuckers due to their higher output. another reason to consider avoiding P-P circuits, IMO. however, if intended for live performing use w/o a PA system, snakehips' advice about increased head room is another variable to add into the equation. personally, i like EL84 for electric [read R&R electric] tones...but once again, roll with MM about 6V6 for my perception as to your target tone. good pricing on a single ended EL84 bad cat at TDPRI, [usual disclaimers] and not too distant to consider a live demo before shelling out american inflationary notes? www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php?product=42109&title=bad-cat-cougar-5-watt-1x12-quot&cat=22 looked for past thread posting about vintage 47 to no avail, they ~are~ an excellent choice for authentic retro-amps. was a sweet deal on one of their 1942 el capitan mdls at the gear page 'coupla weeks back. was about 1/2 price due to being purchased without the aluminum trim, may still be listed, membership required to view ads. same ~is~ a 6 volt pre/6V6 P-P out circuit, about/likely less wattage as an EL84 pair due to cooler jurasic period biasing. www.thegearpage.netanother option i'd ~highly~ recommend in champ flavors, [his specialty]---contact "muchxs" @: www.tdpri.com/forum/index.phpuse his email address @ his profile page, as his forum mailbox usually runneth over. tell him your requirements/intended use. he's an olde school electrotech who has forgotten more about vintage amp circuits than many will ever know. [was responsible for designing and installing the first mega-track recording studio in NYC back in the day...] i have [more than] enough faith in him to have ordered a "one-off*" amp build from him, currently being assembled. mitchfit * actually, "two-off" as he's plannning to build a likely tweequed circuit for hisself also.
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 5, 2014 19:32:34 GMT
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 5, 2014 15:01:33 GMT
"LAUGHING MY AMP(s) OFF"
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 5, 2014 14:57:00 GMT
GREATLY EXPANDED/EDITED FROM ORIGINAL POSTING.
was pressed for time when same was written, had to mow the lawn in a wild hope that the growing season is over here in NETEX.
after some web crawling and cyphering on the new [to me] info presented here in above postings...
as previously stated, perfect intonation on a guitar is only a concept. as such, ~no guitar~ intonates correctly at every fret on the neck, with any strings chosen.
somewhat akin to perfect people. [when chosen from mere mortals]
guess the final cut is what degree of imperfection can be acceptable.
would think that the hammer striking piano strings starts them off vibrating at slightly incorrect Hz also.
openly admitted before, not an oscilloscope ear on my head.
kinda reminds me of all the amp tone freaks. [it's ok for me to be cynical, i resemble that remark]
all the agonizing we do about the "bestest ever" amp(s) sound at home is totally meaningless when transposed into a bar/pub mit der prerequisite liquid entertainment saturated listeners. many of which wouldn't notice the difference between my prized tubular stone age amp clones built from schematics found under the great pyramid and a decent solid state modeling amp. even when sober.
if that opinion gets moved up higher on the audible spectrum to arena venues, consider the "Cream" Clapton/Bruce kilowatt amps> close mic> even higher powered PA> low fidelity but very nearly explosion proof speakers/drivers and where did all the pristine holy grail tone slip off to?
we wont delve into the chemical makeup of the mythical average concert attendee.
when recording, in a sonically sterile environment, the sound i expend so much energy chasing can be appreciated. in the case of a famous band, what to do about a huge difference in what was recorded, and the same song played live? without any need to single out a particular band, how many live renditions of recorded music have you heard that wasn't even in the same county as the original? what will such a band do when Michael Douglas bursts through the door at McDonalds and demands that ~HIS~ hamburger looks like the one in the picture?
bear with me, going out on a tangent here.
i dunno who attribute the below saying to but suspect that it was either Socrates or Confucius:
a guitar player's "sound" is roughly broken up into-
10%---the guitar played 20%---the amplifier played into 70%---the person playing the guitar
if you agree with that, the next progression in this analogy is, would the Alan Lomax recordings be improved or degraded if they were remastered into digital, and then each and every incorrect pitch was corrected?
just one of those questions that mankind has been pondering since the dawn of civilization.
mitchfit
now i've gotta go light up the tractor, and bush hog a fire break around the mowed lawn, and up the driveway to the road.
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 3, 2014 23:06:48 GMT
Michael, was referring to the guitar being out of tune with itself, this above and beyond what tuning it was in. even if that tuning was the correct Hz to be an actual G or any other tuning. below from: www.micktaylor.net/why_mick_taylor_quit_the_stones.html[Mick] Taylor's self effacing and humble opinion of himself never lead him to believe that he stood as a candidate to join the mighty Rolling Stones, he merely thought they asked him to come to the studio and lay down some studio tracks. Differences in musical abilities quickly surfaced at the Hyde Park rehearsals. Taylor remarks, " I just couldn't believe how bad they sounded. Their timing was awful. They sounded like a typical bunch of guys in a garage. Playing out of tune and too loudly. I thought: How is it possible that this band can make hit records?" below from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stones_in_the_Park..."The Daily Telegraph's Iain Martin stated that the Stones were "under-rehearsed and quite possibly nervous, not having performed live in front of an audience in more than two years. The guitars were badly out of tune and half the songs were approached at the wrong tempo", adding that Jagger appeared to be "trying to cover up for the shortcomings of his bandmates".[28]"... please don't take this as criticism, i actually admire his playing/style/person a great deal. he was among the front line in the battle to acknowledge olde school black blues, and elevate it to the level it deserved. besides, i'm hopeless without an electronic tuner myself. [see--tin ear*] no ego driven illusion of superiority here. i'm getting outta here before the sky marshal calls this a thread-jacking... mitchfit *http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tin%20ear
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 3, 2014 19:20:40 GMT
oops, almost forgot---thanks for posting deuce.
very interesting stuff there. any idea about model of guitar used as a test platform?
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 3, 2014 19:15:21 GMT
^^^
slide496, remember when you asked about microphone placement, and the general consensus was that there was no correct answer...
keep locating them ~everywhere possible~ until large grins emerge.
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Oct 3, 2014 19:01:01 GMT
MM said:
..."every guitarist in the world now tunes their guitars the same"...
mitchfit said:
'cept Keef Richards...
but perhaps sentence #5 already addressed this.
with sentence #4 as a modifier.
before the firestorm begins, lemme grab my asbestos umbrella!
:-)
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Sept 30, 2014 19:18:34 GMT
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Post by mitchfit on Sept 30, 2014 11:38:58 GMT
..."I'd be very interested in a conceptual explanation of the physical phenomenon."...
works the same as a speaker in an amplifier, but instead of moving the speaker with electromagnetism, it is moved by a mechanical connection with the vibrating strings.
mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Sept 29, 2014 4:10:30 GMT
Brad, it sounds like a coupla olde dogs barking up the same tree - gear wise. have an immaculate vestax MR66, wouldn't ~even~ consider parting with it. truly the ideal tape machine for home use with its built in patch bay. [see page 4 at below link] web.archive.org/web/20050423200720/http://www.eriksonaudio.com/pdfs/vestax/om/VOM-MR-66E.pdfcassette commercial machines have earned a niche that still gets support with high quality tapes being mfgd to this day: www.musiciansfriend.com/search?sB=r&Ntt=cassette+tapesbut their recording time is halved by the vestax... these show up occasionally on thEbay, for good prices. never got the love they should have. built to near military grade specs, these can go the distance with some TLC, [and stored in an airtight SKB rack case.] the 2x tape speed makes much improved fidelity compared to 1 7/8 IPM. i also had an old phillips 785, but it has since gone the way of the dinosaur. was eventually replaced with a fostex VF160EX, which can quadruple the vestax MR66's capability without having to ping-pong any tracks with the resulting signal loss/degradation. same the reason i never got any other MR66 decks to link in for utilization of their synchronized recording capabilities. color me olde school, but firmly believe that tape-to-digital has a better, warmer, more "organic" sound quality than totally digital. [for lack of a better term...] YMMV, mitchfit
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Post by mitchfit on Sept 26, 2014 19:29:17 GMT
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