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Post by creolian on Nov 5, 2017 17:47:33 GMT
Hello All, A beautiful morning here and my government has given me back an hour they stole in the Spring. (daylight savings time ?) Listening to Sonny Boy Williamson and waxing philosophical... Id sell my soul to the devil below if I could lift people from all this material misery and oppression, achieve world peace, find a way we could all live in harmony... or maybe, just play my guitar like Big Bill Broonzy... Not having a lot of luck with the heavy mind stuff or my playing the last few days, ( ive seemed to reach a plateau of inertia.)  I'm wondering if anyone has opinions regarding the Big Bill Broonzy instructional DVD sold by Stephan Grossman. Any other Broonzy instructional material that anyone might recommend also appreciated. I tells yall, Somewhere Between the songs 'good gal blues' and 'thinking my blues away' is the meaning of life  Thanks... And all best ! jeff |
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Post by slide496 on Nov 5, 2017 20:29:13 GMT
IMHO I'm more in favor of the Ernie Hawkins than the Woody Mann from looking at snippets as I think the Hawkins demo clip has more of a feel for the kind of drive, bounce and guts that I hear in Broonzy's playing if you want to study him and they probably have an individual lesson for $9 if you want to see if you like learning that style.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 21:25:52 GMT
"I'm wondering if anyone has opinions regarding the Big Bill Broonzy instructional DVD sold by Stephan Grossman. Any other Broonzy instructional material that anyone might recommend also appreciated."
I doubt Stephan Grossman has ever made anything but an excellent instructional DVD on any guitarist's style!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 23:35:12 GMT
I personally find the music of the original Sonny Boy (John Lee) Williamson to be warm, soothing. Introspective and honest... more so than Rice Miller...or Big Bill. But all of them intimidate me with their playing... I believe the ability to reach that plateau is a gift, so dont beat yourself up if you arent there yet...
I have met and seen Stefan Grossman perform on several ocassions, and as well his videos...he is great purveyor of the music and tradition. I am sure that almost everyone familiar with his material will highly recommend.
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Post by creolian on Nov 6, 2017 6:43:26 GMT
IMHO I'm more in favor of the Ernie Hawkins than the Woody Mann from looking at snippets as I think the Hawkins demo clip has more of a feel for the kind of drive, bounce and guts that I hear in Broonzy's playing if you want to study him and they probably have an individual lesson for $9 if you want to see if you like learning that style. Best, Harriet Thanks, after vestapol changed the page, it crashes my browser, same with the wood shop forum... I was able to look at a little bit of Hawkins on it eventually and its now on the list. I really need to upgrade and get a real data connection as bandwidth on a cell connection is ridiculous. At least I've never been one not to procrastinate... My only teeny tiny complaint about Stephan Grossmans method was on the country blues DVD he goes up tempo at a speed which is depressing to watch and these days, I can't listen that fast anyway. I have another he made more recently that is a bit more accessible and better produced. My parish library has a Woody Mann DVD that I've borrowed a few times. These things are usually a trove of ideas. I'm more about evolving my porch (comped) playing than learning a style... Sets the bar low enough for my abilities to remain enjoyable. All best, jeff |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 11:14:09 GMT
Probably it could be said that Grossmans lessons tilt towards the more advanced player....taking this beyond the original questions asked, I would recommend that you try one of Toby Walkers lesson “packs”, though you will need a solid internet and pc setup. I think there are free samples on his website, and generally the packs are reasonably priced...around $20 for hours of naterial.
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Post by slide496 on Nov 6, 2017 12:30:58 GMT
Hi Creolian,
Just so you know, you can slow down the lesson in both dvd and the on demand, and IMHO the guideline would be the one that inspires or appeals to you the most with your goal of improving porch playing. With the workshop, Usually the song is broken down line by line and the tabs are complete, if you you can't read tab and want to I can walk you through how to.
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Post by creolian on Nov 6, 2017 16:41:46 GMT
Probably it could be said that Grossmans lessons tilt towards the more advanced player....taking this beyond the original questions asked, I would recommend that you try one of Toby Walkers lesson “packs”, though you will need a solid internet and pc setup. I think there are free samples on his website, and generally the packs are reasonably priced...around $20 for hours of naterial. Hi Fred, I was able to watch a couple of Toby,s You Tube pieces... thanks, This guy is inspiring to say the least. Something about that fluid way the music just rolls... Its not that Grossman et al are over complicated, it's just the mastery of the instrument that makes these players music seem instinctual other than methodical. I've worked with enough real players to have realized long ago that it's a level that only a few ever achieve and I ain't one of them. Is Toby the guy playing one of your guitars on a vid you posted recently ? I remember that as being purty darned good. ThX, Jeff |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 21:18:48 GMT
Jeff, Yep thats Toby on my Facebook page...just posted another video (Dust My Broom) that I took when he visited last week. i dont want to turn this into an advert, but he does have a good reputation and following as an instructor, and I know first hand that he puts a ton of effort into his teaching product. www.facebook.com/1670077719960931/videos/1742492049386164/Keep in mind that Toby had a belly full of antipasto, ravioli, chicken, salad, red wine before playing this...forgot to mention sausage and gravy |
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Post by blueshome on Nov 7, 2017 13:21:40 GMT
As an aside, what a shame that the photo purporting to be Sonny Boy is of Rice Miller.
As to Instruction, I would always go for the best, even if their playing seems beyond reach. More to aim for and more help as you become more adept in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 14:06:00 GMT
To me, it sounds like Rice Miller imitating John Lee. But others need to check that... Listened again...nope i am wrong. It is SB number 1
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Post by blueshome on Nov 8, 2017 13:02:11 GMT
The recording is definitely the great innovator Sonny Boy (John Lee) Williamson
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Post by gordon on Nov 10, 2017 17:33:29 GMT
Looks like the Ernie Hawkins lesson on Big Bill Broonzy is on sale at the moment. I won't put a direct link here, but you can find it pretty easily on Stefan Grossman's site.
I agree that it's a better job than Woody Mann's dvd.
He goes into a lot of depth on it, it's worth the time, and on top of being a great player, Ernie Hawkins is a nice guy.
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Post by creolian on Nov 10, 2017 23:01:03 GMT
Looks like the Ernie Hawkins lesson on Big Bill Broonzy is on sale at the moment. I won't put a direct link here, but you can find it pretty easily on Stefan Grossman's site. I agree that it's a better job than Woody Mann's dvd. He goes into a lot of depth on it, it's worth the time, and on top of being a great player, Ernie Hawkins is a nice guy. Hi Gordon, Really appreciate the heads up. Today I spent 25 on what would have cost 40 last week. All of the "cartoon" cover DVDs are on sale for 25. On the other hand, Stephan's newly designed website extracted a proportional amount of frustration in trying to buy the DVD... 42 minutes of digital, ahem.... "Convenience".  ( grateful I can get it, laughing just to keep from crying', just typical inspiration for the modern blues man ) oy poopola ! And all the best ! Jeff |
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( grateful I can get it, laughing just to keep from crying', just typical inspiration for the modern blues man )