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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:32:36 GMT
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Post by snakehips on Jul 14, 2017 16:59:05 GMT
Eh, where is the resonator ?
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 14, 2017 17:37:33 GMT
The instrument you have linked us to is a Tronad mohan veena. These are cheap mass-produced copies of Concord mohan veenas and they are useless. They just don't work.
The musician in the video is my dear friend, the wonderful Indian slide player and one third of the Mitra trio, Manish Pingle.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by vagabond on Jul 15, 2017 0:09:13 GMT
if you can guarantee that I can play like Manish then I'll buy a couple of them  |
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 15, 2017 13:15:03 GMT
Vagabond, I can't guarantee that, but if you're interested, I do know how to get one.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by creolian on Jul 15, 2017 14:33:29 GMT
Vagabond, I can't guarantee that, but if you're interested, I do know how to get one. Shine On Michael But can you tune it ?  Seriously: where what and how would you suggest that someone with no listening experience to the genre (me) find an introduction to the music of Hindustan, the Sitar and the Mohan Veena ? I'm a bit lost looking for sonically familiar intervals and western time sigs... ThX, Jeff |
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Post by Malc on Jul 15, 2017 17:14:06 GMT
Ive had a Mohan veena for about 18 months now thanks to Michael and Manish. I can thoroughly recommend it. It opened a whole new world to me.I thought that I was to old to try and learn something so different from what I was used to
Not a bit of it. Haven't had so much fun and enjoyment for a long time. I couldn't even play lap style when I started and can even recognised a couple of Indian raga's and play then in my own way. By no means anything like correct but I enjoy it.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 16, 2017 9:09:00 GMT
Hi Jeff, My advice would be to order two albums Call Of The Valley - by Hariprasad Chaurasia, Shivkumar Sharma, Brij Bhushan Kabra Lure Of The Desert 'Folk Melodies of Rajasthan' - by Brij Bhushan Kabra. Brij Bhushan Kabra, generally known as Brij Kabra, or just BBK, is the person who brought Indian slide guitar into Hindustani classical music. He invented the idea of adding sympathetic strings and using his Gibson arch top as an Indian classical instrument. The album, Call Of The Valley, was recorded in 1967 and is the most successful Indian classical music album ever. It was one of the records that the Beatles and their friends brought back from India in 1968.  Call Of The Valley is in various lists of 'albums you must hear before you die'. I have been listening to Call Of The Valley since I discovered it nearly forty years ago. Lure Of The Desert 'Folk Melodies of Rajasthan - EMI #ECSD 2993 recorded in 1985 - there are a few Indian slide guitar albums with this title, but you don't want to get them, it must be this one. :format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4557156-1368295601-8684.jpeg.jpg) BBK is not a fast player like so many of the modern players. His playing is soulful and beautiful - I would call him the Blind Willie Johnson of Indian classical music. Both of these albums should be listened to from CD, WAV, or vinyl. Do not listen to compressed downloads or Youtube. These are beautiful hi-fidelity live studio recordings that need to be heard on proper equipment. There are many Indian albums that you should hear, but these two, especially Call Of The Valley, should wet your appetite! Shine On Michael |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 9:51:23 GMT
In a similar vein though more about the vocals I love these brothers.
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Post by Michael Messer on Jul 16, 2017 11:02:29 GMT
The Mishra Brothers played in London at the Darbar Festival at the South Bank last year. This festival is run by the Rayatt family (Gurdain Rayatt plays tabla in MM's Mitra) and features the best in Indian classical music.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by Stevie on Jul 21, 2017 12:04:57 GMT
Hi Jeff, How about this book: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raga_GuideYou can buy it from Amazon and there are one or two vendors selling it considerably cheaper. (check eBay) There are four excellent CDs that accompany the book. The illustrations are superb which is more than can be said of the binding, but you can't have your cake and eat it. e&oe... |
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Post by creolian on Jul 21, 2017 20:38:06 GMT
Hi Jeff, How about this book: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raga_GuideYou can buy it from Amazon and there are one or two vendors selling it considerably cheaper. (check eBay) There are four excellent CDs that accompany the book. The illustrations are superb which is more than can be said of the binding, but you can't have your cake and eat it. e&oe... Hi Steve, I think this might be just the ticket as an introduction for me. The albums MM recommended are tough to find and apparently collectible in that they are a bit pricey from what I found. The one place I've yet to check is the local library but that's on the list for Saturdays adventures. Edit: ordered the guide from amazon new shipped 42usd, can't wait ! Many Thanks, Jeff |
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Post by Stevie on Jul 22, 2017 12:33:04 GMT
Immerse yourself in the CDs first before trying to get your head around the subject Jeff. These guys are on another level compared to us. I read that Derek Trucks studied ragas for two years solid and when you listen to some of his licks it shows. Enjoy the ride. I use it like a season ticket- just a little now and then...
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Post by creolian on Jul 27, 2017 16:35:34 GMT
Immerse yourself in the CDs first before trying to get your head around the subject Jeff. These guys are on another level compared to us. I read that Derek Trucks studied ragas for two years solid and when you listen to some of his licks it shows. Enjoy the ride. I use it like a season ticket- just a little now and then... e&oe... Hello Steve, all, Listening this morning and it's a refreshing change listening to something new and being unable to anticipate where it's going. Needing a break as Ive been working on some things from a Woody Mann instructional DVD and I'm hearing it in my sleep. Very meditative and calming, I'd recommend this to anyone looking to expand their musical horizons. Many thanks and my apology to the group for thread jacking this off the original topic. Now I'm wanting to dig out the Paul Horn Inside the pyramid record, crank up the orgone accumulator and produce a deep blue kirlian aura... All da best, Jeff |
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Post by vagabond on Jul 28, 2017 18:39:14 GMT
Vagabond, I can't guarantee that, but if you're interested, I do know how to get one. Shine On Michael Thanks Michael, I’d love to take you up on it but without the ability to play it I’m afraid it would just be an expensive ornament |
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