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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 19:13:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 19:34:08 GMT
It is interesting, but it's got 6 strings (three or four should do), and it doesn't look much like a cigar box. And whilst I'm on my 'cigar box', IMO they are like beefheart compared to zappa / iggy compared to bowie - OK in small doses... TT
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Post by Michael Messer on Aug 13, 2014 20:01:26 GMT
Captain Beefheart is not an artist I would put into the 'small doses' category, I love his music!
Shine On Michael
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Post by paulnb57 on Aug 13, 2014 20:27:31 GMT
Oo, Neon Meat Dream of a Octofish, memories!
Paul
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Post by paulnb57 on Aug 13, 2014 20:35:58 GMT
I had a brief flirtation with a Cigar box. guitar and they don't do it for me, too approximate, too many compromise, so now for a bit of fun I use a cheap Strat copy modified to a 3 string, usually tuned E,b,e, sooo much fun! Ladies and Gentlemen, the Comicaster! Paul
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 21:17:02 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Comicaster! Hey, that gives me an idea. I bought one of my kids a 1/2 size strat for xmas a few years back they dont use.... TT
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Post by zak71 on Aug 13, 2014 21:27:47 GMT
like beefheart compared to zappa / iggy compared to bowie - OK in small doses... Interesting. I listen to Beefheart and Iggy without paying 'dosage' any mind. I don't listen to Zappa or Bowie at all.
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Post by bod on Aug 14, 2014 9:00:30 GMT
And whilst I'm on my 'cigar box', IMO they are like beefheart compared to zappa... Really? Well, I guess I'd better get on a make myself a CBG then (if you wanted to make your point uncontroversially, you could have said 'Beatles' and 'Stones' )
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Post by pete1951 on Aug 14, 2014 12:36:47 GMT
I have problems with Cigar Box Guitars, I have made a couple, but cigar boxes are too small to get much sound out. With a short scale , a uke type thing just about works, but getting guitar sounds out (without a pick-up) is hard. I am making one at the moment (uke scale, 4 string) If I were to make an electric 3 or 4 string I think a solid body is better than a small box Pete T PS, I have no problems if anyone uses something for a body that works (Like a sink ) but a small plywood box seems silly.
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Post by bod on Aug 14, 2014 22:33:08 GMT
Hi again, Thought I'd see if I can make a more sensible contribution... I think what Pete says (above) is interesting and it all makes sense enough and seems true enough to me. But I think there are a variety of ways of coming at this and a number of them may be equally good. My context: I don't have and have never played a CBG as such, although I am part way through making a three stringer. That said, I do have three home made one string instruments. One is basically a tin can on a stick, two have old cigar boxes for bodies. One has a piezo, the other is simply acoustic. They are very basic but I'm very fond of them. Here is a picture of the most recent. In line with what Pete said, you won't get much sound out of this without a pickup and it doesn't really do guitar sounds. I can see how that might seem off-putting and rather limiting. However, I really do like the sounds that it does produce and the relative lack of volume doesn't really bother me because unlike many here I'm not a performer. I'm not really trying to get anyone else to hear it, and I actually like the fact that I can play this in a room where the family are watching telly and they can still hear the dialogue (and so can I, if I want to). They are also very inclusive: While I've no doubt that making the best CBGs requires considerable skill and inventiveness, it doesn't take a lot of skill to make a one stringer that sounds pretty good - I did it with no relevant experience and if I can do it pretty much anyone can. It was quite a kick as well as something of a surprise to find out I could make an instrument - even such a very basic one - that I genuinely like the sound of. My kids are grown now, but when friends or family with younger ones come round, the kids tend to want to have a go - and they're playing slide, and enjoying it, in a heartbeat. My eldest took one along to show a class of youngsters he teaches and they were gripped. It was something they could get sounds they liked from, and they liked the fact that it was visibly made from old odds and ends. Friends who don't play instruments are often more interested in these than they are in guitars, some ask for and have a go. And anyone can have a go (unlike the resos). I'll admit I am a bit puzzled by the six string CBGs, though, a fair number of which seem actually to be a very small bodied solid body electric with the solid body clothed in a cigar box - but I guess there is a visual aesthetic thing going on there, perhaps as much as an aural one, and maybe some other stuff too... Nothing really wrong with it in my book, but not the way I'd choose to go. Four strings seems to me to be another thing again - strikes me as tenor guitar territory, more complicated to make one that works well, I imagine (than a one or a three stringer, I mean).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 22:39:40 GMT
I saw hollowbelly a while back - his three string CGB stuff was really great but his four string CGB stuff didn't sound anywhere near as good. If that is some sort of principle, your (Bod) one string stuff should sound 3 or 4 (approx) times as good . TT
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Post by jreading on Aug 15, 2014 12:05:03 GMT
Moreland and Arbuckle are worth checking out if you like your CBG music.
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Post by polly on Aug 17, 2014 6:06:34 GMT
I've made a few three stringers. I tune them to G-B-G, so anything I play on them is tranferable to my usual open G on a six string. I don't bother with pick-ups on them, so they're pretty quiet. Good for just relaxing on the lounge with. The license plate Reso has a nice warm tone. I'm particularly happy with the "National" inspired headstock. Goodonyaz.
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Post by myk on Aug 17, 2014 19:07:09 GMT
I went for five strings on my Tele. A great mod for open G Attachments:
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Post by izzydunne on Dec 6, 2014 23:53:52 GMT
I have a 3 string cigar box guitar. I really like it. Mine has a humbucker pickup, and it has a NOS Sprague orange drop capacitor. Best to avoid the piezo pickups as they can tend to sound tinny. The 3 string is roots personified. Lot of the old time blues men started on a diddly bow and a 3 string CBG. This machine can sound sweet and it is also made to boogie, just plug it into a good amp for best results. Since it got it, the 6 string is not played much, the 3 string CBG is that much fun.
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