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Post by Wyzzy93 on Feb 20, 2013 20:44:33 GMT
I am wondering what the best wood would be to use to replace the saddle insert on my Busker Cannon single cone to get the best tone?
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Post by Keith Ambridge on Feb 20, 2013 21:37:46 GMT
isn't it maple and isn't that supposed to be the best?
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Post by Stevie on Feb 21, 2013 7:31:03 GMT
Boxwood I believe is the standard reply to this question, but maple is a very reasonable substitute.
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Post by Mark Makin on Feb 21, 2013 9:04:45 GMT
Old school rulers used to be the best source. Don't know if they still exist though?
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Post by Stevie on Feb 21, 2013 13:09:44 GMT
eBay is your friend.....
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Post by Wyzzy93 on Feb 21, 2013 19:09:31 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I have a friend who makes guitars and he offered to make the insert for me, he asked me what type of wood I would like, hence I asked here. I will go with Maple if there is no advance on that. My friend suggested the harder the wood the better so I thought maybe there was a better substitute.
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Post by Keith Ambridge on Feb 21, 2013 20:08:06 GMT
I think the idea is, hard but also light therefore ebony "no"! rosewood, better. But since violin makers etc have used maple for quite a while wh not follow their lead!
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Post by karlos on Feb 22, 2013 15:15:53 GMT
But since violin makers etc have used maple for quite a while wh not follow their lead! A violin string vibration is initiated and controled by bow so there is no strong requirement for long sustain. Resonator is the opposite case - if it has no sustain it sounds like a banjo... Karlos |
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Post by Keith Ambridge on Feb 22, 2013 16:41:28 GMT
But since violin makers etc have used maple for quite a while wh not follow their lead! A violin string vibration is initiated and controled by bow so there is no strong requirement for long sustain. Resonator is the opposite case - if it has no sustain it sounds like a banjo... Karlos A double bass? |
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 22, 2013 17:37:04 GMT
Sometimes less is more, most seem to think that ebony topped saddles just don`t sound as good on their guitars (though sometimes an `ebony saddle sound` is though `better` by some) You will have to use your ears to tell which is best for you, .Some forum members have used brass and preferred the tone to maple, but uncapped maple (or box if you can find it) are most often said to be `best`.
PT
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Post by Matt on Feb 23, 2013 9:44:29 GMT
The saddle in your cannon is probably maple already...
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Post by Wyzzy93 on Feb 23, 2013 16:46:18 GMT
I am well aware that the saddle is maple already but it is too low so I am replacing it. Two maple saddle are now being made for me.
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Post by oldpicker on Feb 23, 2013 16:46:46 GMT
It might be worth replacing the biscuit and saddle with a genuine NRP one - there are other threads on the forum that recommend it as a worthwhile upgrade.
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Post by Stevie on Feb 23, 2013 17:43:58 GMT
I replaced the biscuit-saddle assembly on my MM Blues with the popular NRP alternative. The new saddle was too low and I was left with no alternative other than to make and fit a replacement saddle for the new biscuit-saddle assembly, or scrap the whole idea. So that was well worth the time and effort involved...
I used a small quantity of Canadian hard rock that a work colleague building his own banjo had to hand. I couldn't tell the difference either, although it's difficult to be objective when you no longer have the original configuration with which to compare the "upgrade". In retrospect, I wonder whether a quick 'n' dirty recording to compare with a similar hack after the "upgrade" would be an effective undertaking, and allow a degree of objective analysis to be applied to the exercise? I wish that I'd done that!
And some have said that the objective should be to have a light weight but hard material, hence maple because it is readily available (unlike the much vaunted box, unless you happen to live near enough to Box Hill in Surrey, England...) but how does a penchant for brass as a material dovetail into that logic? The answer of course is to use whatever floats your boat, because what works for you may not chime with others, and the only way to find out whether you have sprung a leak is to suck it and see. It's all part of the journey.
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Post by pascal on Feb 24, 2013 13:35:12 GMT
Wood box was the bridge material used for triplates back in the 30's.
But my triplate's bridge is made of maple, even if she dates from 1931...
For singles, always heard Mike Lewis using rock maple (USA-native to western North America, from southeastern Alaska, British Columbia ...), but only maple.
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