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Post by blackjack on Oct 3, 2012 16:17:31 GMT
Hi All,
I am sure someone out there will know the answer to this question! I have been trying to find the tabs for "Dark is the night,cold is the ground" and "It hurts me too" with no luck. Anybody any ideas where I could get them from ? Many thanks, Cheers, Jack.
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 3, 2012 17:17:09 GMT
Hi Blackjack,
I am not trying to sound clever or patronizing, but I wouldn't think that TAB is necessary for either of those pieces, and I think it will do you good not to use TAB to learn these and other pieces of music.
Tune your guitar to the recordings, which in both cases will be D tuning up or down a semitone or two, and copy the playing.
If you are listening to Blind Willie Johnson's Dark is the Night, remember that the vocal is the glue that holds the whole thing together.
To copy a piece of guitar playing like Dark is the Night, listen to it so many times that it becomes firmly planted into your brain's music folder, and then try and play it. Play along with the recording over and over for as many hours as you can take, and then on your own.
Do yourself a big favour that I think you may thank me for when you get to the other side, and DO NOT get TABs for these songs, use your ears.
Sometimes I listen to the same piece of music over and over and over again for days, sometimes weeks, before I am able to play it. In some cases, it can take years of listening to a song before you are able to play it. I don't mean that you should listen to the same song over and over for years, but a song that is difficult to play will slowly unlock itself until eventually you get a green light and it all falls into place.
Good luck!
Shine On
Michael
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Post by oldnick on Oct 3, 2012 17:49:34 GMT
Hi Jack,
I use a piece of software which slows down the music, this lets me learn the sequence of notes, once you have that building up to the correct speed is relatively easy.
Nick
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Post by Jaco on Oct 4, 2012 1:33:50 GMT
@bj and michaelBJ Dark is the Night? I've listened to it literally more than 250+ times (extreme? Maybe) I've let three versions by Ry Cooder and original by Blind Willie Johnson just play and play. Tabs are someone's interpretation of a song and may not be accurate. Perhaps the basics are there, but the nuances would take a very long time (for me) .....I'm still working on them. BJ it's as Michael said, and to paraphrase learning tunes is all about "Reps" I've used tabs only to find that the good majority of them are not correct. I think what Michael said is the best approach. As an example the three recordings of Dark is the Night that Ry Cooder does are not the same. I play that song literally everyday, over and over, still have not got the nuances worked out, might not ever get them worked out. Also just like OldNick I use VLC so I can slow a song down, and for me it's still a challenge. Bro ......someone once told me it's all about "Reps." Best, Jaco |
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Post by DaveRed on Oct 4, 2012 15:44:43 GMT
Jaco, Thank you for introducing me to VLC, I've just downloaded it and it's a fantastic piece of software. It's like Windows Media Player ++ If anyone else wants it it's here: www.videolan.org/vlc/index.htmlIt's open source software so anyone can use it for free. Dave |
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Post by oldnick on Oct 4, 2012 18:59:27 GMT
SlowMP3.jar is another one I would recommend.
Nick
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Post by blackjack on Oct 5, 2012 10:41:59 GMT
Thanks to Jaco,Michael and Old Nick.
I am sure you are right Michael, the best way is to take time to learn from the recordings. Sadly,I am old enough to remember the days before tabs and when I started playing around on the guitar in the early sixties,the main ways were to listen to records and slow them down for the solos or have a mate teach you. There was sheet music available, but did not always work too well on blues. I remember buying some John Lee Hooker songs and it did not give the JLH improvisations and we knew the three chords and words already!
Reckon I must have got lazy in my old age, but the reason I was asking about tabs for these two songs, was I felt I was missing something when I played them and sometimes if you look at a tab version of a song you know,you find it may be played in a different position or way. But it is good advice and I will keep playing them to try and improve by using my ears...
I have never tried any of these methods to slow things down,like VLC. Sounds good, but knowing my computer skills, it may be more of a challenge than the song !! Thanks for your advice guys,much appreciated... Cheers, Jack.
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Post by Jaco on Oct 5, 2012 14:19:22 GMT
Black Jack
VLC is a piece of cake. Just look under the "Playback" menu and from there you'll see a slider to slow it down as much as you'd like.
I sent you a PM as well. Check it out.
Best,
Jaco
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Post by eggy on Oct 8, 2012 8:02:09 GMT
Learn from record if able.I think is always better than to use tab.You get more from it and to develop ear.
eggy
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Post by Malc on Oct 8, 2012 14:09:58 GMT
Hi Black Jack, the other thing is that by following tab you are just copying someone else's take on a tune. Take "Rollin and Tumblin" its been recorded by Robert Johnson,Muddy Waters,RL Burnside,Jeff Beck, Johnny Winter, Michael and many more all sounding totally different.
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Post by blackjack on Oct 10, 2012 16:18:37 GMT
Ok, you guys have convinced me!
I need to spend a bit more time playing over the old recordings and just use TABs as a rough guide. I remember reading in Buddy Guy's biography that we he was young he lay in bed at night and had the radio on low and tried to play back what he heard. He reckoned it improved his ear,so if it good enough for Mr.Guy,it is good enough for me! Cheers, Jack.
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