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Post by Michael Messer on Jan 6, 2008 21:08:07 GMT
Lee,
It doesn't matter that you made a mistake. We all do occasionally. Your enthusiasm for hunting out guitars, accessories and records, has brought some amazing stuff to the surface. Never give up your enthusiasm for all this and don't worry about Les Patterson. It's done now!
Shine On Michael
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Post by Colin McCubbin on Jan 17, 2008 2:17:03 GMT
Well, she has reached Marc Schoenberger in the USA, who emailed: The guitar arrived safely. What a bute mate! All nickel silver!!!!!!!!
I havent pulled the neck yet but i don;t see any evidence of there being another neck. The numbers on the headstock are stamped (not embossed and upside down) with a European set of stamps and so not National.. my guess is it's someones ID # like their birthday.... was the owner born July 1 1911 or jan 7 1911? or perhaps the guitar store couldn't find the serial # on the bottom of the guitar and assigned some stock #...
So indeed this is S186! the cone was replaced in late 1932 however the cone they got was defective... a spinning error that cut through most of the outer rim where it curls up so they filled the outer curl with glue to keep it from buzzing! and it is crushed a bit..
This guitar (A) never played well and (B) had cone issues... so my guess.... this is the reason the guitar is in such great shape she will be wonderful when shes done... I love nickel silver single cones... yummmmmmy!
I hope to take some pictures and pull the neck today Congratulations and thanks for sending her to me! Cheers! M So so far it looks like Lee turned us on to another goodun I'll post some pics when Marc sends them.
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Post by lee holliday on Jan 17, 2008 10:32:54 GMT
Colin, I am relieved that after my initial suspicisions it has proved to be a genuine find, it will be good to load up the images for the world to see on Notecannons as also the crowd on the IGS forum are also following this saga. Regards to Canada I will be seeing Michael tonight with my latest Resophonic discovery a rubberised non slip cloth the size of a napkin placed on your leg & which stops shiny guitars getting away from you! Cheerio Lee.
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Post by Colin McCubbin on Jan 19, 2008 5:30:57 GMT
Lee,
Don't forget that a serious blues player 'lives the blues', and that terminal depression (also a frequent Country music subject) means you don't wash your clothes, so the lap steel sticks to your pants (USA speak for trousers).
Hence there is no need for 'nonslip napkins on your lap'!
;D ;D ;D
(Sorry Michael, couldn't resist!)
Actually, when Michael, Alan and I were taking the pics for Notecannons, years ago, we found that 'bluetac' stuck nationals on their invisible stands 'real well'. Vicki might question the blue gunk on your lap though!
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Post by lee holliday on Jan 19, 2008 17:37:59 GMT
Colin, The non slip cloth was for a 12 fret single cone, which try as I could it would always break into a Paul Simon song ( Slip slidin away!). Celine Dave Kings Galic assistant put me on the trail when she mentioned that classical players of bowl back instruments often use such a cloth. But the problem has found a more permanent solution as Dave has sold the guitar! I think it really boils down to the fact that 14 fret metal bodies are easier to keep under control!! The electric lap steel has long lost its felt backing so that may require the same treatment. Regards Lee
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Post by Michael Messer on Jan 20, 2008 11:15:42 GMT
I have never really had a problem with Tricones & Style Os slipping off my lap. But if you do.....try some 'Spray Mount' on your trousers...pants.....legs. The only Paul Simon song that springs to mind on this subject is Graceland. The Mississippi Delta was shining Like a National guitar, I am following the river Down the highway Through the cradle of the civil war, Shine On Michael
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Post by steadyrollinman on Jan 20, 2008 12:20:29 GMT
Well said Michael, fantastic lyrics.
Chris
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Post by Colin McCubbin on Jan 21, 2008 2:23:30 GMT
Hairspray has similar 'sticky' effect, I think Michael told me that years ago when my Hawaiian bar kept on leaping from my hand like a wet bar of soap..
Although, on second thoughts, Lee (we all ;-) might get into serious trouble if we come home with hairspray on our laps...!
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Post by robn on Jan 21, 2008 10:18:08 GMT
This would work It comes in different flavours - And if you rub it all over your shiny guitar you won't have any trouble with it slipping off your lap. Even if you play whilst surfing Robn ;D
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