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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 13, 2010 14:23:39 GMT
Just reading your question to Lee. You won't want to mix that pickup with anything. I have mine wired so that I can mix it with the lipstick pickup. It works fine, but there has never been a moment in 10 years where I have wanted what the mix offers.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by slidenpickit on Apr 13, 2010 15:21:12 GMT
Hi Michael, So is that a blend type control? Does yours have a 3 way switch arrangement? And...do you think the lipstick pickup is the best option? Iv'e got some Strat parts which are begging to become a Coodercaster.
Regards
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 13, 2010 17:02:15 GMT
Hi Chris, yes it is a three way switch. I chose the lipstick pickup because I had a repro Danelectro that I loved playing, but it fell to pieces one day when I was tuning it. The bridge pulled right through the body! I liked the lipstick pickup and went with that as a second pickup. That is how I see it because 90% of the time, maybe even 98% of the time, I use the Supro pickup. That was the whole point for me, I wasn't too worried about the other pickup. The lipstick is fine for me, it is the cheapest type available. I am sure there are other interesting pickups to fit, but I have been happy with it for a decade.
I have never tried one of the new Supro copy pickups so I cannot comment on how close they sound to an original one.
Shine On Michael
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Post by honeyboy on Apr 13, 2010 17:16:40 GMT
Chris, I find the mix position between the Teisco and the Oahu gives a useful sound - it's edgier than just the Teisco on it's own, but not so full on as just the Oahu. However, the dynamic range of the pickups are such that just plucking the string harder will send the amp into the edge of overdrive, even on a clean setting.. (which is a useful thing).. I did this a few weeks ago, for a TV project. It's recorded with the Coodercaster using the mid position on the pickup selector mixing the teisco neck and the Oahu bridge pickups, going though a 6 watt Cornford Harlequin amp. I mostly use that amp for recording (unless the neighbours are out).. ;D For my purposes, the middle selector position gives me a very useable, recordable sound..
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Post by Mark Makin on Apr 13, 2010 19:26:17 GMT
Just thought I'd post a picture of Supros "Acoustic-Coodercaster". This is the SUPRO RIO, a short lived oddity released by Valco in the last few months before the war - Late 1941/early1942. Bet the feedback was horrific!
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Post by slidenpickit on Apr 13, 2010 21:03:16 GMT
Thanks Michael, I can see and hear why you probably use the Oahu almost exclusively. I like lipstick pickups too. Blimey Honeyboy, that's some hair raising stuff! Sounds big and full, lovely. I currently have the hair brained idea of a Lollar Supro in position 1, a Texas Special (TS) + Neck in position 2 and the Neck pickup (TS) in position 3. But having heard the Teisco in action I will have to reconsider. I'm trying to use what I already have. Lollar recommend their own Strat Specials with flat pole pieces to go with the Supro. Hey Mark, very funky guitar!!!
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 13, 2010 21:19:04 GMT
The Supro Rio is quite a machine! I have never actually seen one in the flesh, but I bet it feeds-back like $%£&. And I should think it is a bit front-heavy when you hold it. I think that one has been modernised with a jack socket, the pics I have seen have a lead attached permanently
Honeyboy, that is a great sound and a cool track.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by slidenpickit on Apr 13, 2010 21:25:57 GMT
Can't possibly imagine why it didn't catch on!
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Post by leeophonic on Apr 13, 2010 21:30:50 GMT
Chris I am out of the loop at the moment so forgive the lack of reply to you question.
Firstly I am no expert just love these type of guitars and all there variations, I studied the paperwork that came with the pickup and it mentions the phase problem, in my own Godincaster guitar there is no pickup selector switch just a volume pot for each pickup and a master tone control, so I did email Jason Lollar explaining the scenario, I think he advised give it a try in its original configuration and if it is unsuccessful try a selector switch. It works with either volumes up or down or a blend of the two, incidentally I asked Dave King what he did when he wired in Mikes Supro pickup with the lipstick at the neck and he was unsure that he had done anything out of the ordinary with just a three way selector switch (Gibson style). As Mike says it works where ever you select it. Additionally I already have the second Tele that Dave King built a few weeks after Mikes mine has a 1952 Rickenbacker horseshoe at the bridge and a soap bar at the neck, with again like Mikes this just has the three way selector switch with a tone & Volume (no Problems). In the added photo in the previous photobucket linkk it is second from the right (I will hope fully get some more photos of it at the weekend but just packing for a few days away), it,s an old photo by the way and half of the guitars are replaced by others . Additionally having pickups out of phase was not a problem for Peter Green with his 58 Gibson which he later sold to Gary Moore (one of the Holy Grail of the Les Pauls). I have a couple of firebird style bodies and a 50,s Supro pickup on which Jason has based his design, this will probably be a two pickup affair with a lipstick at the neck and a three way switch. The secret is to have a neck pickup which is very much the understudy to the Supro as it barks, so you need a poodle at the neck!
I am in Surrey, if you are around in this area you are more than welcome to try the guitar and spread the gospel.
Regards Lee
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Post by slidenpickit on Apr 13, 2010 21:47:36 GMT
Thanks Lee, Its a veritable minefield, I don't suppose I need to try and match the output of the JL Supro. Any chance of some sound clips? I live in Durham so Surrey would be quite a trek but thank you for the invitation. I have a Texas Special Strat that's my main gigging guitar and it has been to hell and back with mods, so I'm leaving it alone and using other Strat bits that I have including a flat fretboard neck with RW board and 1 7/8" nut with a Birdseye maple neck and an alder hard tail Strat body. I already have a fully loaded pearloid scratch plate with Texas Specials and was hoping to just add the Supro. The dual volume pot idea seems like a good idea, much like my Resolectric. thanks
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Post by ramongoose on Aug 16, 2011 15:25:19 GMT
a short demo of my coodercaster thanks Ramon
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Post by Michael Messer on Aug 16, 2011 22:44:35 GMT
Hi Ramon, Your Coodercaster sounds great. Shine On Michael.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 8:47:42 GMT
Nice one Ramon great music, great guitar
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Post by ramongoose on Aug 17, 2011 11:39:17 GMT
Thanks Michael and David - very kind! It was a bit of a nightmare to build it as one of the coils on the Valco pickup had broken so we had to rewind it with the correct wire (which is so thin). I asked Bareknuckle and Lollar but both refused saying it was too fiddley for them - so my friend built a winding machine out of an old sewing machine just to wind this pickup!!! But that pickup sounds really fantastic theres nothing like it. heres the guitar in action with a great sengalese artist Abdoulaye Samb: soundcloud.com/lakeblues/abdoulaye-samb-ramon-goosethanks as well guys for all the info on this site about the coodercaster! best wishes Ramon
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Post by ramongoose on Oct 25, 2014 10:29:59 GMT
Hi Michael - just a little video of me talking about my coodercaster - hopefully will be useful to your thread!
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