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Post by jono1uk on Oct 2, 2022 14:07:26 GMT
Love this
What is Megan's lap slide tuned to would you say please?
Jono
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Post by ken1953clark on Oct 2, 2022 17:07:12 GMT
Love this What is Megan's lap slide tuned to would you say please? Jono Dobro G (GBDGBD) I think |
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 2, 2022 17:08:31 GMT
Love this What is Megan's lap slide tuned to would you say please? Jono Hi Jono, What key do you think the song is being played in? That is all you need to know. The lap steel is being played with notes from the scale of the key. Nice reverb and some saturation in the solo help to create the atmosphere. It is not a song I have heard before, but they do sing and play it very well, as they do with most material they approach. Nice harmonies too. ---------------- Ah now I get it, Megan is playing the whistled melody and basing her whole performance around that melody. Shine On Michael |
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Post by lonelyjelly on Oct 3, 2022 9:20:36 GMT
Love this What is Megan's lap slide tuned to would you say please? Jono Bags of fun that. Assuming the lead vox's guitar is a semi tone flat, have a look at roughly where Megan is placing the bar during the root chord (Gibson C) and the V chord (Gibson G). |
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Post by jono1uk on Oct 3, 2022 19:45:21 GMT
The capo on fret 1 of Gibson confused me as well .. also when Megan plays an open chord on the vox it doesn't sound like a G ?
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 4, 2022 7:48:30 GMT
I moved all these posts because they were not part of the "what are you listening to" thread.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by lonelyjelly on Oct 4, 2022 11:30:40 GMT
The capo on fret 1 of Gibson confused me as well .. also when Megan plays an open chord on the vox it doesn't sound like a G ? I haven't got a guitar but maybe it's tuned up to G#? I can't tell if it's "high G" or Spanish but I'd guess it's one of them as Ken suggested  |
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Post by ken1953clark on Oct 4, 2022 11:36:56 GMT
She's a country girl, always played Dobro. I doubt she changed it for her rock career
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 4, 2022 12:40:19 GMT
Megan is playing in straight country/Hawaiian 1 3 5 tuning in the key of C# and the guitar is tuned to 1 3 5 1 3 5 in G#. You can easily hear that at around 30 seconds into the song when she goes from the 5 open chord on the top four strings to the 1 "the root chord" on the 5th fret. So in plain English, the tuning is G# B# D# G# B# D# and she's playing notes from the C scale, which in this tuning is actually the C# scale.
What I don't understand is why this isn't completely obvious because Rebecca is showing the chords and notes as clear as a moving diagram. C chord capoed at the first fret is C#. The chords are basic chords from the key of C, which is now C#.
As I said in my previous post, don't worry about the tuning, that is the least important element. Worry about what notes and chords are being played because they can be played in any tuning on any instrument. They are just notes and chords from the C scale. It's basic music theory/knowledge.
Shine On
Michael.
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Post by lonelyjelly on Oct 4, 2022 15:22:10 GMT
Well without a guitar or keyboard it is hard to tell the correct pitch and seems just as likely that Megan would be in open G and non-Megan be tuned down a semi-tone explaining the capo at the 1st fret. The song is clearly out of C position and as I said above, Megan's use of the bar across the 5th fret matches non-Megan's use of the cowboy C-shape chord, so Megan has to be playing out of some formation of open Spanish tuning, high G or regular.
Agreed, think of the notes as the numbers in a scale instead of their actual name.
The problem with theory is it ain't got no mojo has it 🙈
Best,
Lew
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 4, 2022 17:35:14 GMT
Lew, my comments were really aimed at Jono because the question he asked "what tuning is Megan using" is not really the issue. That is why I went and found the original and listened to that, which has the whistled melody that Megan is playing. Understanding the song and the girls' arrangement of it is the way to understand what is being played on the lap steel. So the first thing is to understand the chords, which in this case are there for us all to see. It is obviously C# even with the sound off. If the chords are hard to follow, have a search for the chords to the original. It is so easy these days because (a) Rebecca is showing us the chords, and (b) the chords are all over the Internet because it is a famous song. The Scorpions appear to play it in C, whichI am guessing is not a good key for Rebecca to sing this song, so they are playing it a semitone up in C#. The easiest way to play in C# on a lap steel is to tune it up a semitone and play in C. But even if you don't do that, Megan is only playing melody lines in the scale of C. (C# in this case) which can be played in almost any tuning.
I am not having a go at Jono, I am just trying to be helpful by pointing out that it is so much more productive to try and work these things out before asking.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by lonelyjelly on Oct 4, 2022 22:56:07 GMT
Sorry I came across a bit defensive there.
Good catch-up thereafter though 😊😎
Best,
Lew
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Post by chromatic on Oct 23, 2022 11:15:57 GMT
Megan is playing in straight country/Hawaiian 1 3 5 tuning in the key of C# and the guitar is tuned to 1 3 5 1 3 5 in G#. You can easily hear that at around 30 seconds into the song when she goes from the 5 open chord on the top four strings to the 1 "the root chord" on the 5th fret. So in plain English, the tuning is G# B# D# G# B# D# and she's playing notes from the C scale, which in this tuning is actually the C# scale. What I don't understand is why this isn't completely obvious because Rebecca is showing the chords and notes as clear as a moving diagram. C chord capoed at the first fret is C#. The chords are basic chords from the key of C, which is now C#. As I said in my previous post, don't worry about the tuning, that is the least important element. Worry about what notes and chords are being played because they can be played in any tuning on any instrument. They are just notes and chords from the C scale. It's basic music theory/knowledge. Shine On Michael. Put DIY SLIDE | Lap Steel Slide Techniques into YouTube and the trad Dobro tuning is plain to hear on Megan's lessons. What a great player
Somewhere in search engine land is video confirmation by herself that Dobro came first and she kept the tuning
Cheers
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Post by snakehips on Oct 24, 2022 6:32:05 GMT
Hi there !
I often get asked on my youtube videos what tuning I’m in, especially the Elmore James Dust My Broom type videos.
Most videos, I state which tuning I’m in, in the video description AND I’ve answered that same question in the comments section, multiple times..
Sometimes it feels like they haven’t even bothered to work out what key I’m in - as I’m sure it would give them a big clue as to what tuning I’m playing in.
Having said that, Open G, Low-G, High-G and other Dobro style tunings - I would probably not be able to tell one from another as I’m not familiar with any other than regular Spanish Open G.
What does help though, is listening to songs, and specifically listening out for certain riffs and chords that are only really feasible in a particular tuning.
I can tell when John Lee Hooker is in Open G tuning, because there are certain riffs and a few funky chords that he uses that just smack of Open G - such as his IV chord (C), is actually a C with a 7th on the bottom (actually Bb, on the 5th string, 3rd fret) - basically a standard tuning, regular C “cowboy” chord shape, but played in Open G. In some tunes he plays the chord with an open 5th string instead to just “suggest” the IV chord, which is futher implied by the slight inflection in his voice.
Always more difficult to explain in words, than just playing it in front of someone, to show them !!!
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