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Post by jono1uk on Oct 6, 2020 19:59:45 GMT
Just heard he has passed away ..
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Post by leeophonic on Oct 6, 2020 20:10:47 GMT
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 7, 2020 7:58:15 GMT
 I just saw the news that Eddie Van Halen died yesterday. He was only 65 years old. I know very little, almost nothing about Eddie and his music, so I am unable to write an obituary of this great artist for the forum. What I do know is that he influenced a generation of guitarists in the 1980s and sold in excess of eighty million records. Oh, and that Eddie Van Halen is the featured guitarist on Michael Jackson's iconic "Beat It" song.  Eddie Van Halen >RIP --------------------------- Shine On Michael |
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Post by mark1977 on Oct 7, 2020 10:09:41 GMT
I only really know 2 Van Halen albums. The first which I remember having quite an impact when it came out, partly to be honest because of Eruption which spawned the legion of shredders, but many of the songs were pretty good to my young ears. The second album I heard was their third., 'Woman and Children First'. It has some rather nice accoustic slide on the track 'Could This Be Magic', in fact this track was one of my gateways into accoustic slide so I owe Eddie Van Halen a debt. I think there was a bit more to him than his shredder imitators. RIP.
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 7, 2020 10:28:17 GMT
Hi Mark1977,
Lovely! I had no idea that he recorded anything influenced by Hawaiian music. That is because apart from the hit singles I have not heard any of their work.
Van Halen's music caught me at a time when I had moved away from mainstream rock music a few years earlier. The hit records and the imagery also represented everything I didn't and still don't like about eighties rock.
A good friend of mine was a friend of Eddie's and spoke very well of him, both as a musician and as a human being.
Thanks for posting that song.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by mark1977 on Oct 10, 2020 15:05:55 GMT
I read a little more biography on line and his father was a professional musician (pianist, clarinetist and saxophonist and played both in Jazz and classical contexts apparently). He moved to the US from Holland when Eddie was 10. Eddie and his brother Alex (who became the drummer in VH) both had piano lessons as children as their father encouraged them musically. Their mother was originally from Java so I guess they were exposed to quite a range of music growing up. Did Hawaiian music influence any Indonesian musicians? I'm always intrigued by the routes by which people come across and are influenced by music.
He was also a great admirer of Allan Holdsworth it seems.
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 11, 2020 10:05:00 GMT
I read a little more biography on line and his father was a professional musician (pianist, clarinetist and saxophonist and played both in Jazz and classical contexts apparently). He moved to the US from Holland when Eddie was 10. Eddie and his brother Alex (who became the drummer in VH) both had piano lessons as children as their father encouraged them musically. Their mother was originally from Java so I guess they were exposed to quite a range of music growing up. Did Hawaiian music influence any Indonesian musicians? I'm always intrigued by the routes by which people come across and are influenced by music.
He was also a great admirer of Allan Holdsworth it seems.
Hawaiian music was a massive worldwide craze in the 30s, 40s and 50s. A professional jazz musician would have been highly likely to have run across Hawaiian bands, let alone the fact that many of the major artists, such as Bing Crosby for example, included Hawaiian songs and Hawaiian sounding songs in their repertoire. Even Laurel & Hardy put a Hawaiian song into their 1933 film, Sons of the Desert. In the Netherlands, Wout Steenhuis, was a Dutch musician that made dozens of Hawaiian records during the 40s, 50s and 60s. So Hawaiian music was everywhere at that time. Hawaiian music's golden era was mostly for my taste, the pre electric era of the 30s and some of the early electric steel guitar recordings, but much like the blues today, it was played everywhere. This is really the subject of a whole separate thread, but I think it does answer your question. Shine On Michael |
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Post by snakehips on Oct 11, 2020 11:15:00 GMT
Hi there !
To be honest too, I don’t know the man’s music, beyond that song Jump, that I could never listen beyond the grossly irritating 80’s synth intro.
I sae the announcement on the TV news, and they played the intro to Jump, while they talked over, about him. I thought it was ignorant to play a section of music that doesn’t really contain any of his guitar playing (that is particularly noticeable to my ears, anyway) !!
RIP anyway.
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Post by Ian McWee on Oct 11, 2020 14:43:39 GMT
Somewhere out there is an E.P. called 'Star Fleet Project' ~ back in the '80's, Gerry Anderson of 'Stingray'; 'Thunderbirds' etc. was prolific in producing puppet shows for A.T.C...one of these was a short-lived series called 'Starfleet Command'.
The title music was written and recorded by none other than Brian May, subsequently an E.P. of the title track, plus two other songs were issued to the general public ~ '80's pop-rock at it's finest which also featured Eddie Van Halen!
These two 'Star Fleet Project' tracks were all on the A-side of said E.P.....but - the whole of the B-side was 12+ minutes of uninterrupted slow 12-bar blues called 'Blues Breaker' featuring Brian May & E.V.H ~ it's just a loose 12-bar jam by two rock giants during some downtime on the original session.
Slide On!
The Flaschenmeister
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Oct 11, 2020 14:59:18 GMT
I too only know the song 'Jump' as my daughter used it as 'her music' when she won the county synchronized swimming championship all those years ago.
Thanks Eddie.
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Post by mark1977 on Oct 11, 2020 15:15:08 GMT
I read a little more biography on line and his father was a professional musician (pianist, clarinetist and saxophonist and played both in Jazz and classical contexts apparently). He moved to the US from Holland when Eddie was 10. Eddie and his brother Alex (who became the drummer in VH) both had piano lessons as children as their father encouraged them musically. Their mother was originally from Java so I guess they were exposed to quite a range of music growing up. Did Hawaiian music influence any Indonesian musicians? I'm always intrigued by the routes by which people come across and are influenced by music.
He was also a great admirer of Allan Holdsworth it seems.
Hawaiian music was a massive worldwide craze in the 30s, 40s and 50s. A professional jazz musician would have been highly likely to have run across Hawaiian bands, let alone the fact that many of the major artists, such as Bing Crosby for example, included Hawaiian songs and Hawaiian sounding songs in their repertoire. Even Laurel & Hardy put a Hawaiian song into their 1933 film, Sons of the Desert. In the Netherlands, Wout Steenhuis, was a Dutch musician that made dozens of Hawaiian records during the 40s, 50s and 60s. So Hawaiian music was everywhere at that time. Hawaiian music's golden era was mostly for my taste, the pre electric era of the 30s and some of the early electric steel guitar recordings, but much like the blues today, it was played everywhere. This is really the subject of a whole separate thread, but I think it does answer your question. Shine On Michael Thanks for your answer Michael. I am lamentably ignorant of Hawaiian music apart from the odd track on slide guitar compilations but I hope to rectify that in due course. The relevant discussions and posts in this forum would seem to be a good place to start. Also a good excuse to rewatch Sons of the Desert which is a particular favourite of mine. |
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 11, 2020 15:54:31 GMT
Hawaiian music was a massive worldwide craze in the 30s, 40s and 50s. A professional jazz musician would have been highly likely to have run across Hawaiian bands, let alone the fact that many of the major artists, such as Bing Crosby for example, included Hawaiian songs and Hawaiian sounding songs in their repertoire. Even Laurel & Hardy put a Hawaiian song into their 1933 film, Sons of the Desert. In the Netherlands, Wout Steenhuis, was a Dutch musician that made dozens of Hawaiian records during the 40s, 50s and 60s. So Hawaiian music was everywhere at that time. Hawaiian music's golden era was mostly for my taste, the pre electric era of the 30s and some of the early electric steel guitar recordings, but much like the blues today, it was played everywhere. This is really the subject of a whole separate thread, but I think it does answer your question. Shine On Michael Thanks for your answer Michael. I am lamentably ignorant of Hawaiian music apart from the odd track on slide guitar compilations but I hope to rectify that in due course. The relevant discussions and posts in this forum would seem to be a good place to start. Also a good excuse to rewatch Sons of the Desert which is a particular favourite of mine. What I forgot to say was that Hawaiian music and especially the steel guitar reached the Far East, Indonesia and India first in 1919 and then again in 1927. Shine On Michael |
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