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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 19:19:25 GMT
Yes 1936... a few dozen people have covered it
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Sept 13, 2020 7:15:11 GMT
I've kept out of this discussion so far but having read through it again this morning my thoughts have not changed, so here goes...
I'm with MM and Snakehips on this one.
Why, if you are playing a reso at home or in a smaller venue do you need to amplify an already very loud instrument with a specific sound (designed specifically for that purpose) anyway?
By adding and using a magnetic pickup the sound of a reso is coloured and changes in exactly the way the sound of any other electro / acoustic instrument does.
I have a few resos, I play with bare fingers, and it has been known that I have been told a fair few times to "turn it down!" when I've been playing normally at home, no mic. pickup or amp, - yesterday being a prime example when I was playing my MM 28 in the upstairs room, fanlight window open and Mrs. PD was at the end of the garden 40 yards away!!
IMHO if you want the sound of a resonator guitar, you play a resonator guitar.
If you want the sound of a resonator guitar but much louder, you play a resonator guitar through a SM57 into a PA or acoustic amp.
If you want the sound to be anything other than a reso you stick piezos, magnetic pickups and any other forms of electronica on / in the guitar and stuff the signal through a guitar amp - easier still, go and buy another type of guitar.
Line 6, anyone?
My final point is based on experience - I had a Resolectric fitted with a P90 and a Highlander which when I plugged it into a clean Matamp at home it sounded exactly what it was EXCEPT that the acoustic reso sound I was hearing from it was actually the raw acoustic unamplified sound from the guitar itself - the amplified bit sounded crap until I turned the blend knob all the way to 100% P90 when it started sounding like a LP Junior. The same thing happened when I went to a local jam night and plugged into a Fender Deluxe.
So, my not so humble opinion is that if you want your acoustic reso guitar to sound like an amplified acoustic reso guitar you uses an SM57 through the PA or an acoustic amp.
If you want it to sound like any other thing you want to hear, you do what the bl88dy hell you like with it but it won't sound like a reso.
I await the doodlebugs and V2s.
Best to you all, PD.
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Post by pete1951 on Sept 13, 2020 7:35:33 GMT
If you want the sound to be anything other than a reso you stick piezos, magnetic pickups and any other forms of electronica on / in the guitar and stuff the signal through a guitar amp - easier still, go and buy another type of guitar. So, Imagine you are at home, next door are mowing the grass, because you are near Heathrow there will be a plane coming over every few minutes and you want to record your latest instrumental. ( By the way you only have one (resonator) guitar as you have been out of work since Covid19 and have sold all the others) Now, I think you will want to try to get the best ( it’s not going to be great) sound you can and a mic may not be an option. Pete
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Sept 13, 2020 7:39:35 GMT
If you want the sound to be anything other than a reso you stick piezos, magnetic pickups and any other forms of electronica on / in the guitar and stuff the signal through a guitar amp - easier still, go and buy another type of guitar. So, Imagine you are at home, next door are mowing the grass, because you are near Heathrow there will be a plane coming over every few minutes and you want to record your latest instrumental. ( By the way you only have one (resonator) guitar as you have been out of work since Covid19 and have sold all the others) Now, I think you will want to try to get the best ( it’s not going to be great) sound you can and a mic may not be an option. Pete I hear what you're saying Pete, it's a mean old world, but it still won't sound like a real reso though, will it?
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Post by pete1951 on Sept 13, 2020 8:36:57 GMT
No, but with a following wind it might sound like a guitar! Pete
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Sept 13, 2020 8:41:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 12:56:37 GMT
There is enough information in this thread for all to draw their own conclusions about how to amplify a reso for any type of tone, either natural or with any degree of coloration, using a microphone or piezo type of pickup.
The question of why person would want to amplify a reso guitar has no right or wrong answer...is moot point...
<< My 37 Triolian (stage left) is the Loudest Reso on earth.
NB I still feel the need to reiterate that I knew that Robert Johnson wrote Stones In My Passway...it just that I was too young to see the broadcast when he performed it on the Ed Sullivan Show...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 7:40:50 GMT
I think most reso players who want to use a pick-up enter the eternal struggle to get a reso sound. That's a good thing, because most reso players I've seen live end up with a sound that is something like a reso. Most acoustic players don't really give a #### what their acoustic sounds like, and usually just stuff it DI into the PA. Nothing worse than hearing a Martin sounding like a fart. Keep up the struggle. TT
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Post by rosantu on Sept 15, 2020 19:54:03 GMT
The Amistar original tricone pickup is under the T-bridge glued into an epoxy filling. Hard to remove or repair. Thanks for the info!
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