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Nov 24, 2019 18:36:52 GMT
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Post by bonzo on Nov 24, 2019 18:36:52 GMT
A cool cat indeed!
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Nov 24, 2019 19:46:29 GMT
...if you've ever stood in the middle of The Kop singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' whilst LFC are getting prepared to beat Manchester United, watching fully grown men with tears in their eyes, you'll understand the power of collective music. Edited /added for our US members - this is what I'm on about: YNWA.
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 24, 2019 22:00:39 GMT
Had a huge ole Weimaraner back in the 1980's named Custer. He would ~always~ complain when I tried to play a harmonica. Know it wasn't critique as he even howled at Bob Dylan playing harp on the lo-fi vinyl merry go round owned at that time.
He didn't even wince when BD was singing, so it hadda be the Hz of the instrument. Probably hurt his 10,000X better than human's capability ears.
He didn't like banjo either, but noticeably less irritating to him than a harp. No reaction to banjo from the stereo.
On the other hand. have met very few dawgs who wouldn't play sing-along with mitch if I initiate the jam session.
Just sayin', mitchfit
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Post by Stevie on Nov 25, 2019 0:56:10 GMT
I suspect the strong harmonic content in the harmonica's (going on sawtooth?) waveform irks Fido. We had a dog as kids, a black mutt that howled at the harmonica when dad blew it. My own golden retriever gets up and walks out whenever I play "How Much is That Doggie in the Window" for a laugh on acoustic guitar. I'd like to think she's selective because no other musical wreckage from me makes her do that. It's uncanny.
e&oe ...
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Post by mitchfit on Nov 25, 2019 4:12:26 GMT
Never considered that possibility, Stevie. The plateau of a deeply clipped wave gets very parabolic at the extreme end of the spectrum.
MM mentioned before the difference between even the most basic subdivisions of major and minor scales, and their effects on the brain.
It seems odd to me that while we can loop an entire chord and all the subsequent harmonics into a multi-wave audio signal "doughnut" and spin that on an axis to examine it more closely with an oscilloscope screen, we have still have no understanding as toward his point.
Perhaps science never will be able to explain these things with numerical equations and even a scalar field wild card, but it seems they recognize what they can't quantify:
...”Euclidean Vectors are a vector space. They represent physical quantities such as forces: any two forces (of the same type) can be added to yield a third”...
(shallow explanation/deep subject)
So the chances of science finding out why even animals and plants like music might be a long way off.
To make it even more odd, there is clear evidence that music theory can be described entirely by math.
If so, what about the inverse function theorem?
Have to wonder what the plant growth percentages would have looked like if the horticulturists had played “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida” 24/7 in the greenhouse.
mitchfit
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 9:19:03 GMT
I always thought dogs howled at certain types of music to cancel frequencies that were hurting their ears. Perhaps dunvettin could confirm or deny this. Here's an interesting LINK anyway.
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Post by dunvettin on Nov 25, 2019 9:49:37 GMT
I always thought dogs howled at certain types of music to cancel frequencies that were hurting their ears. Perhaps dunvettin could confirm or deny this. Here's an interesting LINK anyway. Thanks for dropping me in it nicely Graeme. They don't appear to react as if they are in pain - as the article you linked to they'd retreat from or possibly attack ( in rare incidences ) the source of the discomfort. Dog reactions firework noises ( many frequencies & volumes combined) are an example where they get distressed. The higher auditory range of dogs may account for their awareness of harmonics outside our detection or maybe they just think they are suddenly in a choir along with their other wolf pack members and need to join in. - Sounds like a good PhD project for a young post graduate vet looking for a job. Cheers Tim
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 10:11:01 GMT
Yeah, but will they buy the CDs? TT
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Nov 25, 2019 10:17:36 GMT
I always thought dogs howled at certain types of music to cancel frequencies that were hurting their ears. Perhaps dunvettin could confirm or deny this. Here's an interesting LINK anyway. Thanks for dropping me in it nicely Graeme. They don't appear to react as if they are in pain - as the article you linked to they'd retreat from or possibly attack ( in rare incidences ) the source of the discomfort. Dog reactions firework noises ( many frequencies & volumes combined) are an example where they get distressed. The higher auditory range of dogs may account for their awareness of harmonics outside our detection or maybe they just think they are suddenly in a choir along with their other wolf pack members and need to join in. - Sounds like a good PhD project for a young post graduate vet looking for a job. Cheers Tim That figures. My old black labrador used to go nuts when hearing fireworks, shotguns, helicopters etc. - he hated them. However, whenever I attempted to play slide acoustically on a parlour or resonator he would come into the room where I was playing and howl away like a good'n, sometimes leaning against me whilst doing so. Silly old bu88er never managed to get in tune though. Guitars and basses played 'normally' he ignored, so I put it all down to the frequencies and overtones he could hear from slide playing. Best, PD aka the Wolfman.
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Post by bonzo on Nov 25, 2019 10:18:41 GMT
Not if they're a vinylrammer deuce .....
Oh suit yourselves!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by slide496 on Nov 26, 2019 13:43:34 GMT
There's also some videos of pet birds like cockatoos and parrots reacting or keeping time with their owner's playing, even if they've been trained or natural behavior is reinforced they do recognize and keep in time or step with what is being currently played.
Lawd Lawdy, Harriet
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