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Post by purpleorange on May 19, 2018 10:14:32 GMT
I am curious about purchasing a new build ladder braced guitar and have a few questions, I would appreciate any info or advice. What options are there for a new (custom built or off the shelf) ladder braced parlour guitar in the UK? Is there a UK equivalent of Hauver guitars that makes Stella replicas? I did a quick google search and the I came across this company, but I can't find much info about their guitars. www.wunderkammerinstruments.co.uk/#/riley/The final question, is a modern day ladder braced guitar going to have the bluesy tone of the 1930's guitars or are there too many other variables.
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Post by slide496 on May 19, 2018 12:15:20 GMT
I play ladder braced guitars although I live across the pond, perhaps this is further information - I've been researching contemporary high end ladder braced guitars. Besides Hauver, Waterloo guitars has an off the shelf model here: www.waterlooguitars.com/wl-s-deluxe/ that is reputed to be a great replica. Those are the contemporary two models I know of. Here's the Waterloo dealers list for the UK: www.waterlooguitars.com/dealers/ The Waterloo model is a fast seller in the US. IMHO there'd be variables - probably not too many, though Lawd lawdy, Harriet
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Post by purpleorange on May 19, 2018 13:07:38 GMT
Hi Harriet, thanks for the info, that is exactly the sort of think I am looking for.
I had a quick look online and the only one I could see for sale in the UK was listed at £3000, probably works out the same as importing a Hauver guitar. I am going to do a bit more research, I would be tempted if I could get one for less that 2K, but that looks unlikely.
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Post by slide496 on May 19, 2018 13:18:39 GMT
Whoa that is expensive IMHO, those Waterloos run about £2250 in the US. They just started shipping out a new batch in the US, a dealer in NYC just got one that I had hoped to test for research purposes. Need to sell some guitars if I move forward, though.
Lawd lawdy, Harriet
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Post by gordon on May 19, 2018 15:51:01 GMT
I was curious about the Wunderkammer guitars, never heard of them before, so I checked out their site and.... they're made in my hometown, Bristol! I'll try and visit them this summer when I'm back in the area and see how they sound.
My memory's not so great - but is that you, Ryan, Mr purpleorange? Ryan with the loud as loud can be Triolian? (Apologies if I'm wrong, won't be the first time!)
Gordon
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Post by purpleorange on May 19, 2018 18:57:09 GMT
Hi Gordon, that is me.
I have still got the Triolian and I love it, it is all the guitar I will ever need, I just have an itch for a parlour that might beed to get scratched one day.
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Post by snakehips on May 20, 2018 5:47:43 GMT
Hi there !
If you really are after a guitar that sounds like those old 78 blues reocrds, ie. an Oscar Schmidt type ladder braced guitar, the ones I have heard that have that sound Really close, are the US-built Fraulini guitars.
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Post by niko on May 20, 2018 9:46:47 GMT
Ralph Bown from York builds ladder braced guitars. His ladder-braced 12string are excellent, Catfish Keith has 2 (and I have 1 :-)
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Post by purpleorange on May 20, 2018 11:04:33 GMT
Hi there ! If you really are after a guitar that sounds like those old 78 blues reocrds, ie. an Oscar Schmidt type ladder braced guitar, the ones I have heard that have that sound Really close, are the US-built Fraulini guitars. I like the Fraulini guitars, but I the shipping and customs are still a problem. I might consider importing something if I can't find anything suitable in the UK.
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Post by purpleorange on May 20, 2018 11:06:42 GMT
Ralph Bown from York builds ladder braced guitars. His ladder-braced 12string are excellent, Catfish Keith has 2 (and I have 1 :-) Does Ralph Brown have a website? I couldn't find on.
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Post by slide496 on May 20, 2018 12:11:11 GMT
Fraulini has great instruments but they are double the price of a Waterloo, and difficult to find. However you might look at them all, including Waterloo, Collings and Hauver and get an idea of what woods are being used so you are more informed if something comes up in your price range.
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Post by purpleorange on May 20, 2018 19:48:57 GMT
I would be happy with any of the guitars mentioned above,I might be saving for a while if I want to get one new and I doubt they come up 2nd hand very often.
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Post by leeophonic on May 21, 2018 8:12:34 GMT
Fraulini guitars all day long, a 2nd hand one recently changed hands from a forum member, so keep your eyes peeled they are out there.
Collings makes the Waterloo guitars, made to look downtrodden, Fraulini look like a new guitar before the player puts the mileage on.
Otherwise there are some great 2nd hand guitars out there from older manufacturers.
Lee
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Post by slide496 on May 21, 2018 12:39:57 GMT
Fraulini guitars all day long, a 2nd hand one recently changed hands from a forum member, so keep your eyes peeled they are out there. Collings makes the Waterloo guitars, made to look downtrodden, Fraulini look like a new guitar before the player puts the mileage on. Otherwise there are some great 2nd hand guitars out there from older manufacturers. Lee Just played a couple of x braced Waterloos several weeks ago - they looked new and they are sensitive easy playing instruments. If you are referring to vintage ladder braced, the downside on them is that they don't have neck sticks and may not be as reliable or durable for transport and gigging, all of mine need tending to occasionally, and I don't take them out. The several youtube players of them that I've emailed said theirs needed work and were not easy to play even after that. I also had an exchange with a vintage parlor reseller here who suggested 70's birch models for slide. The ladderbraced ones I tried from the 30's-40's unamplified in a vintage store had small voices with the exception of supertone. Lawd lawdy, Harriet
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Post by Michael Messer on May 21, 2018 15:41:03 GMT
I second Lee's comments about Fraulini guitars. I have played a few over the years and they are always superb. Friend and forum member, Phil Thorne, has a 12 string Fraulini, and another friend and master musician, Ari Eisinger, has a six string model that I played a few months ago. As I said.... always excellent guitars.
Shine On Michael
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