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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 15:22:49 GMT
Harriet - agreed that a gap somewhere could be a problem. I have seen many cases on a vintage guitar (likely hide glue) where somehow a small section along the side edges comes lose and the guitar comes out-of-round...and its not an easy fix.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 11:19:34 GMT
The seller of the old Avalon emaile me that there appears to be a neck crack from the previous damage, and high action when tuned to standard. He is giving me the option to walk away from the purchase. I will give it a few jours to decide but thinking I really dont want or have time for another repait project. Would appreciate any thoughts on this. Thanks.
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Post by Michael Messer on Dec 12, 2017 11:43:16 GMT
Hmmm.... it sounds like it is going to need some work done on it. It is almost impossible to advise you without having the guitar in my hands.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 11:56:19 GMT
Michael, Yes I was sent some photos and while ut will be a simple repair that I could do...it will remain as a neck and headstock with a compound repair. The action did not look that bad. Since I am not a serious collector, not sure if it is such a significant item to take on as a project. Wo7ld need to paint the back of neck. Here are two photos.
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Post by slide496 on Dec 12, 2017 13:51:44 GMT
Those pix look decrepit to me. There's no way of knowing whether the wood overall is strong or the glue inside is ok around the braces, whether there is any mold. Would he be giving you a return window. Just my IMHO. I'd ask to see the bottom of it, length of the sides if you haven't at least.
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Post by Michael Messer on Dec 12, 2017 14:50:12 GMT
Hi Fred,
Difficult to advise you from here. Harriet is right, but if it really is just that split neck and a few adjustments, then it would be a guitar to own. Hmmmm.... Might be safer to pass on it.
Shine On Michael
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Post by mitchfit on Dec 12, 2017 15:16:56 GMT
fredcapo,
thanks for posting schematic. is unfortunate they are ~all~ 6N7.
the main market driver of NOS/ANOS is guitar amps, and these were used in many still in demand amps. as you stated the pre-amp tubes of this era should outlast most players if they haven't been used extensively.
nice amp! mitchfit
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Post by bonzo on Dec 12, 2017 15:53:41 GMT
Hi Fred, rule of thumb I use is if you have to think that hard about something you may be okay to pass. You're not thinking how you can get your hands on it are you? If it was cheap as chips, or maybe you could make him a cheeky offer,he might be glad to move it on! Best wishes, John
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 17:47:47 GMT
Thanks all... i am leaving it at as coin toss now... I told the seller to cancel, then dont cancel... From my aspect, Its an interesting piece, though lacks the cool of the king national and the provenance of the minnie model...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 23:34:01 GMT
Well, suprisingly the seller offerred to take 100 of the price, so I accepted and thus getting it for 600 plus shipping. A little titebond will set it right.
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Post by bonzo on Dec 13, 2017 0:26:24 GMT
Good for you Fred! The enjoyment of a new guitar and project with the minimum of guilt! Result! Best wishes, John
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Post by snakehips on Dec 13, 2017 6:20:07 GMT
Hi Fredcapo,
Is that the model with the screw-on connector, up at your armpit ?
Circa 12-15yrs ago I had a circa 1942 National New Yorker -same size as the Memphis Minnie model(s), but with a blonde finish, and one pickup with staggered polepieces (that looks like a cross between a metal P90 and a humbucker, halfway between the neck and bridge usual positions. Mine had the same screw-on armpit connector. I hunted high and low on the internet for the correct screw-on cable but couldn’t source one at all.
If you know where you can get one of those cables, or have one already, then cool !
However, if you plan to convert it to a standard jack, in the standard treble side of the guitar, like I did with mine, it is a tricky job !
I thought that screw-on connector would be easy to unscrew, or something. Not true !!! There isn’t a nut on the outside to unscrew, like in a standard jack socket. The screw-on connector is actually glued into the guitar body side, from the INSIDE. Short of hitting the screw-on connector with a sledge-hammer (which I didn’t try !!) there was no budging loose that connector. It’s seriously locked in there somehow !!
So I did the only thing I could do - which was to cut the cables inside and rewire them to a standard modern jack socket, placed on the “normal” treble side of the guitar. The difficult part was that all the cables were still hardwired (soldered) to the inside side of the connector - so I had to try and cut the wires as close to the inside of the screw-on connector as possible to preserve as much cable length as possible, so that with a new jack socket soldered on, there would still be enough cable length left, to reach the treble side of the guitar side. I only just managed it ! So, if you are converting to a standard modern jack socket, every last inch of cable is sacred (to use a Monty Python expression !) when cutting the cable, otherwise you will run into difficulties. Luckily, the hole in the guitar top for the pickup on my National archtop electric, was quite big - I was able to reach into the guitar a bit, with wire cutters to cut closer to that connector. Your guitar pickup cable might be shorter, as it’s a smaller body size. Save that cable length !!! Good luck !!!!
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Post by Michael Messer on Dec 13, 2017 9:38:53 GMT
Hi Fred,
That's sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I look forward to seeing some pics.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 11:34:46 GMT
Snakehips - Thanks for your information regarding the connector. I have been soldering up cables and circuitboards (and even copper pipes) since I was a youth (or ute as they say in nyc) so that wont be a problem. Will leave it as is, assuming the pickup works. The obstacle i face is generating music worthy of the noble instrument...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 13:37:48 GMT
Michael, Others, Here are two photos supplied by the seller. I dont know if the back of the neck originally was black or sunburst. The neck wood seems to be laminate... Pickup blades are really tall, and wondering if pickup height is adjustable. Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAlso, could this be a cantilevered fingerboard? Attachment Deleted
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