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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 21:38:23 GMT
Also I found that 10s (and thinner) allowed me to do interesting song covers on the Resonator Guitar. Most recently I've used it for a cover of For Love of me my Lord is Dying (it's an English Translated version of Aus Liebe will mein Heiland sterben and a good one too) from Bach's St Matthew Passion (BWV 244). Attachments:
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Post by ken1953clark on Dec 31, 2022 11:11:44 GMT
I use 12's on my Sollophonic resonator telecaster
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Post by leeophonic on Dec 31, 2022 11:39:06 GMT
May have aleady been mentioned as have just scammed this post, NRP come in different phases of development, pre trussrod, trussrod & heavy build, metal body diet around the mid 2000's. Irrespective they will all take all the usual heavy strings that was once the accepted norm, however I have never been happier or heavier than a set of mediums (13-56) although a 12-54 works a s well, with enough tension to drive the cone and to stop it buzzing like a dodgy fake set of christmas lights. I have a theory that there are extra overtones to be had from a resonator with the cone/cones being tensioned just enough too much and it loses something for the sake of something else.
Whatever like everything else it's a personal thing, what works for me somebody else will hate, find your comfortable place with strings guitar, setup etc and hang in there.
Happy new year Lee
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 2:59:55 GMT
May have aleady been mentioned as have just scammed this post, NRP come in different phases of development, pre trussrod, trussrod & heavy build, metal body diet around the mid 2000's. Irrespective they will all take all the usual heavy strings that was once the accepted norm, however I have never been happier or heavier than a set of mediums (13-56) although a 12-54 works a s well, with enough tension to drive the cone and to stop it buzzing like a dodgy fake set of christmas lights. I have a theory that there are extra overtones to be had from a resonator with the cone/cones being tensioned just enough too much and it loses something for the sake of something else. Whatever like everything else it's a personal thing, what works for me somebody else will hate, find your comfortable place with strings guitar, setup etc and hang in there. Happy new year Lee Happy Safe New year. I do use 10s because I've gotten a good solid volume out of them by stringing the strings underneath the tailpiece which increases the break angle behind the bridge. The direction you string the strings on the tailpiece (over or under) will affect how tight they feel.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Jan 2, 2023 10:54:54 GMT
Didn't Led Zep record a song along these lines?
Happy New Year to you all!
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Post by Michael Messer on Jan 2, 2023 10:59:56 GMT
May have aleady been mentioned as have just scammed this post, NRP come in different phases of development, pre trussrod, trussrod & heavy build, metal body diet around the mid 2000's. Irrespective they will all take all the usual heavy strings that was once the accepted norm, however I have never been happier or heavier than a set of mediums (13-56) although a 12-54 works a s well, with enough tension to drive the cone and to stop it buzzing like a dodgy fake set of christmas lights. I have a theory that there are extra overtones to be had from a resonator with the cone/cones being tensioned just enough too much and it loses something for the sake of something else. Whatever like everything else it's a personal thing, what works for me somebody else will hate, find your comfortable place with strings guitar, setup etc and hang in there. Happy new year Lee Happy Safe New year. I do use 10s because I've gotten a good solid volume out of them by stringing the strings underneath the tailpiece which increases the break angle behind the bridge. The direction you string the strings on the tailpiece (over or under) will affect how tight they feel. Hello s11141827, There are no rules and everyone finds what is right for them, however, 10/44 flatwounds on a biscuit bridge guitar are extremely light and no matter how much you have thinned down the resonator, those strings will struggle to get a good tone. I assume the flatwound ones stop the buzzes and rattles you get from such light strings, unless the action is exceptionally high. Another point that you should consider is that under-stringing your guitar, one of the oldest tricks in the book to do a quick fix on a guitar that buzzes or rattles from a poor setup, will over time damage the resonator in your guitar because it is pulling too much of an angle. Eventually the biscuit will start to tip downwards and dig into the resonator. There was a time when every dealer selling old Nationals would under-string them to make a sale. Ultra light flat wound strings understrung at the tailpiece, these are tone killers on an acoustic National/National-style guitar, and not as critical, but still not particularly helpful on an electric resonator guitar. . My advice would be to get your guitar setup by a master resonator luthier, of which there are very few. Oh....I have one question for you. Your username is quite unusual and somewhat off-putting, is there a reason for it? When you joined this forum I refused your membership for a while because I thought you were a scammer. Most people use their real or a fun name rather than a set of numbers. It would feel much better addressing your name, rather than your number. Happy New Year! Shine On Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Jan 2, 2023 11:34:15 GMT
There are no rules and everyone finds what is right for them, however, 10/44 flatwounds on a biscuit bridge guitar are extremely light and no matter how much you have thinned down the resonator, those strings will struggle to get a good tone. I assume the flatwound ones stop the buzzes and rattles you get from such light strings, unless the action is exceptionally high. Another point that you should consider is that under-stringing your guitar, one of the oldest tricks in the book to do a quick fix on a guitar that buzzes or rattles from a poor setup, will over time damage the resonator in your guitar because it is pulling too much of an angle. Eventually the biscuit will start to tip downwards and dig into the resonator. There was a time when every dealer selling old Nationals would under-string them to make a sale. Shine On Michael Resonator guitars were made to be loud, and designed for big strings, so understringing with standard Reso strings will but an unwanted stress on the cone. I am not so sure that VERY light strings will have much damaging effect. Some work with pressure gauges might be needed to be sure that an 010 set understrung is not putting any more strain on the bridge than a 015 set , commonly used by slide players. This sort of work should have been done ( or maybe has been but we haven’t heard about it) by NRP, they have the resources to do all sorts of angle changes and experiments with strings. I have often thought an adjustable tailpiece would be a good idea, but it would end up adjusted the wrong way and the cone could get bent. Pete
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 14:49:13 GMT
There are no rules and everyone finds what is right for them, however, 10/44 flatwounds on a biscuit bridge guitar are extremely light and no matter how much you have thinned down the resonator, those strings will struggle to get a good tone. I assume the flatwound ones stop the buzzes and rattles you get from such light strings, unless the action is exceptionally high. Another point that you should consider is that under-stringing your guitar, one of the oldest tricks in the book to do a quick fix on a guitar that buzzes or rattles from a poor setup, will over time damage the resonator in your guitar because it is pulling too much of an angle. Eventually the biscuit will start to tip downwards and dig into the resonator. There was a time when every dealer selling old Nationals would under-string them to make a sale. Shine On Michael Resonator guitars were made to be loud, and designed for big strings, so understringing with standard Reso strings will but an unwanted stress on the cone. I am not so sure that VERY light strings will have much damaging effect. Some work with pressure gauges might be needed to be sure that an 010 set understrung is not putting any more strain on the bridge than a 015 set , commonly used by slide players. This sort of work should have been done ( or maybe has been but we haven’t heard about it) by NRP, they have the resources to do all sorts of angle changes and experiments with strings. I have often thought an adjustable tailpiece would be a good idea, but it would end up adjusted the wrong way and the cone could get bent. Pete Stringing very light strings on a resonator guitar under the tailpiece won't damage it as the tension is lower
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 14:53:13 GMT
Happy Safe New year. I do use 10s because I've gotten a good solid volume out of them by stringing the strings underneath the tailpiece which increases the break angle behind the bridge. The direction you string the strings on the tailpiece (over or under) will affect how tight they feel. Hello s11141827, There are no rules and everyone finds what is right for them, however, 10/44 flatwounds on a biscuit bridge guitar are extremely light and no matter how much you have thinned down the resonator, those strings will struggle to get a good tone. I assume the flatwound ones stop the buzzes and rattles you get from such light strings, unless the action is exceptionally high. Another point that you should consider is that under-stringing your guitar, one of the oldest tricks in the book to do a quick fix on a guitar that buzzes or rattles from a poor setup, will over time damage the resonator in your guitar because it is pulling too much of an angle. Eventually the biscuit will start to tip downwards and dig into the resonator. There was a time when every dealer selling old Nationals would under-string them to make a sale. Ultra light flat wound strings understrung at the tailpiece, these are tone killers on an acoustic National/National-style guitar, and not as critical, but still not particularly helpful on an electric resonator guitar. . My advice would be to get your guitar setup by a master resonator luthier, of which there are very few. Oh....I have one question for you. Your username is quite unusual and somewhat off-putting, is there a reason for it? When you joined this forum I refused your membership for a while because I thought you were a scammer. Most people use their real or a fun name rather than a set of numbers. It would feel much better addressing your name, rather than your number. Happy New Year! Shine On Michael I updated my name to Oscar Stern
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 15:31:29 GMT
I recently experimented w/ using these Savarez Argentine 1610 Ball End Extra Light Gauge Acoustic Guitar Strings which IIRC are Copper w/ a Silver platting on them so they're not going to be quite as bright as Bronze strings. They're 10 Gauge strings & the reason is so I could emulate the sound of the Iconic Gypsy Jazz Guitar as played by the great Django Reinhardt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 15:31:46 GMT
Happy Safe New Year y'all
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Post by Michael Messer on Jan 2, 2023 16:26:21 GMT
I recently experimented w/ using these Savarez Argentine 1610 Ball End Extra Light Gauge Acoustic Guitar Strings which IIRC are Copper w/ a Silver platting on them so they're not going to be quite as bright as Bronze strings. They're 10 Gauge strings & the reason is so I could emulate the sound of the Iconic Gypsy Jazz Guitar as played by the great Django Reinhardt. Hello Oscar! Have you listened to the guitarist with the same name as you, Oscar Aleman? Oscar Aleman played wonderful gyspy jazz on a National tricone in the 1930s. None of his post-war recordings feature the National guitar. It is believed that the Nazis took his tricorne from him sometime during World War II. If you are playing Django type of material on your national guitar, please could you share a recording or video with us? Have you tried Newtone's Django Strings. They do a silver plated copper set newtonestrings.com/shop/django-series/?v=79cba1185463Thanks Shine On Michael
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 22:06:46 GMT
I recently experimented w/ using these Savarez Argentine 1610 Ball End Extra Light Gauge Acoustic Guitar Strings which IIRC are Copper w/ a Silver platting on them so they're not going to be quite as bright as Bronze strings. They're 10 Gauge strings & the reason is so I could emulate the sound of the Iconic Gypsy Jazz Guitar as played by the great Django Reinhardt. Hello Oscar! Have you listened to the guitarist with the same name as you, Oscar Aleman? Oscar Aleman played wonderful gyspy jazz on a National tricone in the 1930s. None of his post-war recordings feature the National guitar. It is believed that the Nazis took his tricorne from him sometime during World War II. If you are playing Django type of material on your national guitar, please could you share a recording or video with us? Have you tried Newtone's Django Strings. They do a silver plated copper set newtonestrings.com/shop/django-series/?v=79cba1185463Thanks Shine On Michael I've actually used Argentine Strings made by Savarez which are a little bit less expensive & they even have colored silk wound around the ends to protect them
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 21:42:49 GMT
I converted my Resonator Guitar to sound good w/ Really Light Gauge Acoustic Strings by shaving the cone & bridge down to be extra thin.
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