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Post by bod on Oct 7, 2014 12:26:55 GMT
Desserai / David, if you're still looking at current models around £1k, there is a this Michael Hauver 'Blind Blake' model, going secondhand in the US, asking price comes in a shade under £1,100.00 ($1750 US), Of course, shipping and importing would put some on that but it is at least close to your budget and may be of interest ( link for details) Zak, thanks for your comments - much appreciated. As it goes I wasn't trying to decide between those so much as get a better sense of the current options over here - opportunities to pay rather too much for any old and small US made guitar seem abundant, especially where repairs have been undertaken - and as you indicate the real questions are then about the standard of the repairs... Harriet, absolutely! I'm not going to be buying one I can't try and inspect before being landed with it. bluefolk, thanks - I'm also finding myself a bit torn, but more between vintages, if you see what I mean (e.g., between 1969 and 1929). I reckon exploring the tension by trying some guitars is the best way forward - p'raps rather easier with new models than old. (Also, sending you a pm). I'm also finding a few tattier examples at less extortionate prices, if my guitar fettling skills were up to more than CBGs and strat rebuilds I might take a chance on something like this pretty, and pretty tatty, Lyon and Healy Lakeside, with cracked / repaired top, bent tuners and 'wrong' bridge at £215, incl. delivery. (Why might someone change from a tailpiece to that sort of bridge? I could understand going the other way, to a tailpiece, if the top was bellying... Guess I'm not seeing something)
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Post by washboardchris on Oct 7, 2014 13:11:21 GMT
There is an early Canadian made Larrivee Parlor on UK Ebay no 171483613458.I think that the older ones are more lightly built than the newer one's. I had one of these some years ago (wish that I had hung on to it)
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Post by bluefolk on Oct 8, 2014 16:10:44 GMT
Thanks for the info before zak.Out of interest i asked the guy with the Galiano Parlour for some close up pics of the back brace below the sound hole.They are here- I cant see any red ink stamp.
imageevent.com/nicksguitars/agalianostellaacousticguitar
Haven't really got the 100% hots for any of these (honest !) at the moment.Im as much as anything trying to learn more about the differnt models/Makes of Parlour.. The price hes asking on the one above is to much for me.but those retailers will move sometimes.(if it was a good one)
The Michael Hauver Blind blake looks nice.
littlebrotherblues.com/Gear/SoundTest1/index.htm
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Post by zak71 on Oct 8, 2014 19:54:27 GMT
The red ink stamp wouldn't be visible at the angle any of those photos were taken. Galiano's association with Oscar Schmidt is somewhat murky. I would say that some of them are 100% identical to some Oscar Schmidt models, while others are quite different. Apparently some of the people building Galiano guitars did so in NYC, while Oscar Schmidt was across the river in New Jersey. There are features in those photos that look very un-OS to me, for instance the carve of that neck's transition from the back of the headstock to the back of the neck. The body shape doesn't look quite right to me either. Still looks like a nice guitar, though. Everyone I know who has played Michael Hauver's stuff has very high praises for his guitars. I have never played an instrument he built, but he did some work on my Stromberg-Voisinet and it was done very quickly, executed with a lot of attention to detail, and his fee for the job was much lower than I expected. I'd love to play some of the ladder braced guitars he builds.
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Post by bluefolk on Oct 8, 2014 20:57:38 GMT
Cheers for that,much appreciate you thoughts zak. If anyone else is interested..Neck is 47mm.String height at the 12th fret is 3.5mm.Lower bout is 330mm. He says the neck is straight..He does not think it has had a neck reset.
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Post by bluefolk on Nov 8, 2014 0:45:42 GMT
Im finding the 20s 30s 40s parlours confusing.So many different models,makes,configurations etc.. could take years to know what im looking at properly : )
Was very interested in the Kalamazoo KG 11.But decided against that. And the ladder Braced Gibson LG-1,but the neck width on those is between 1 5/8 - 1 11/16 Which is to small.. Couldn't see any at 1 3/4 (50s-early60s)
In my search i came across these New All birch "Tonk Bros Parlour Guitar"Made in the UK www.nineboys.co.uk/collections/tonk-bros-parlour-guitars Couldn't help but be disappointed when i found out they are made of all ply birch (Superior Grade Birch Ply) The necks are 44mm wide.. But then again Luthiers K Yairi have been making quality acoustic guitars for years with ply.They don't see it as inferior.
If i was close enough,would still go and try one out.
Anyone around played one ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 12:36:58 GMT
Couldn't help but jump in here... I would suggest you keep a look out on eBay for an OS Stella grand concert size that perhaps needs some work. If you get it real cheap which is possible, send it to mike Hauver for the work. Also yari's are very nice if IOU can find one.
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Post by washboardchris on Nov 8, 2014 13:15:10 GMT
Have a look for a USA Ebay seller called roadtoast,he seems to get a lot of ol;d interesting guitars through his hands,works on them & then sells them on for not a lot of money(good discriptions, video of the guitar being played & over a thousand posative feedbacks) hope this helps
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Post by bluefolk on Nov 9, 2014 14:54:31 GMT
Thanks fredcapo & wbchris Upto grand concert size would be fine.All i know is i want a guitar with a different sound from my dreadnoughts. Was close to pulling the trigger on the Kalamazoo KG11,but it had a lot of action/neck/body problems. Spoke to local luthier about it,and it could have ended up costing to much..Learnt some good things from talking to him though.
Had a look at Ebay "roadtoast",nothing at the mo.But saved it for later thanks.
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Post by washboardchris on Nov 9, 2014 16:36:54 GMT
Have a look on Ebay for item no 251710542394 (its a Fraulni Parlor & very pretty)
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Post by bluefolk on Nov 11, 2014 0:22:41 GMT
That is a beaut To much though,bugger. Love that pick guard.
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Post by gaucho on Nov 11, 2014 2:48:55 GMT
I picked up one of these (used) Washburn Re-Issues fairly inexpensively and I'm really liking it a lot. I tried the cheaper (ply) models in stores and was unimpressed. But the solid wood models have a really decent tone and are well made. Funny story about it… I bought it off Craig's List for $400 shipped and asked the seller to insure it for $500 (Fed-x). When it arrived, I checked it out and it seemed fine but when I took it home and was playing it (it sounded good!) I found cracks on the bottom and back. It had obviously been dropped and it hit on the strap pin (even tho it was packed in it's hard-shelled case, bubble wrapped and stryo-peanut packed) just perfectly to put a pretty big crack on the bottom and small cracks on the back. After many phone calls, emails, photos of the shipping box and guitar, the insurance company issued a check for the full $500, AND they didn't asks for the guitar! I had it repaired, bought a K and K Pure pick-up and had it installed and the total cost ended up being around $100 for everything (factoring in the insurance check). The repair is awesome and since the guitar is meant to look old anyways, you can't even see it. That pickup sounds really good too. It looks like this, only no inlays on the fretboard except some "125th Anniversary " markings:
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Post by blackjack on Nov 11, 2014 22:02:28 GMT
Hi All,
On the subject of Parlours, I recently bought a 1930s Supertone from VintageParlourGuitars in the States. (Steve did a great job in setting the old girl up and I would recommend the excellent service to any readers in the market for a similar instrument).
What I could do with is a light gig bag/case "parlour" size, ideally similar to the one supplied with my MM Lightning.
Does anybody know of a suitable supplier?
New or secondhand no problem, as long as it fits!
Cheers,
Black Jack.
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Post by obrienp on Nov 12, 2014 13:14:17 GMT
Hi, Interesting thread.
Have you considered a Martin 0-15M Westside Custom? They are available around the £1,200 mark but there may be 12 month interest free credit on offer: lots of UK Martin dealers are doing that at the moment. That's how I bought mine but I saw one on eBay recently and it went for around £800.
I think it makes a nice little blues box with surprising sustain. It's not the smallest parlour around but still quite a bit smaller than a 000. It has 1 3/4" nut and 24.9" scale length which makes it really nice for finger-picking but also has 14 frets, which gives a bit more flexibility than the standard 12 fret parlour. All mahogany (rather than sapelle), bone nut and saddle, ebony pins, etc. Mine is really nicely made: a quality instrument and it has a fantastic cigar box smell.
Just a thought anyway. Good luck with the search! Pat
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Post by simonf on Nov 12, 2014 15:13:49 GMT
The 0-15Ms are great. Not sure Id class it as a "parlour" though I'm not convniced that is a useful name / category for gutiars anyway(!)
I love mine- and the string spacing is very generous for a modern guitar, great for finger picking. My one criticism is that the neck is nevertheless fairly shallow. Practising certain songs, I have to go easy as I get pain in the joint of my left index finger as my hand is too cramped up.
Of course- its X braced and much sweeter and smoother than the sort of old ladder braced "parlours" referenced elsewhere in this thread. It doesnt have that dry punch they have. Great guitar though.
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