How do you record songs online? Guitar and vocal.

[blueshome1]

Thanks Michael, I’ve had a look. Currently I have a lightning iphone, but it’s not going to last much longer so sorry, but I’ll take a pass, as my next phone won’t be compatible

I use an iPad for recording into Garage Band and iMovie. It's usb C but a lightning/usb adapter is all that's needed to use my lightning compatible pre amp.

[slide496]

I'm using a Shure mv51 on a stand. That way if I record on a phone (which I tested but don't use) or into Garageband on a mac (which I do) I can have the mic positioned independently. On a phone once I positioned it I could take the phone off it and put it back easily. I think with the phone if I remember correctly I recorded using a camera set on video. It's not that immediate unless you dedicate the phone and mic. Shure's software for the phone is a recording audio option.

[archtopeddy]

Jul 3, 2024 11:46:29 GMT blueshome1 said:

Thanks Michael, I’ve had a look. Currently I have a lightning iphone, but it’s not going to last much longer so sorry, but I’ll take a pass, as my next phone won’t be compatible

I use an iPad for recording into Garage Band and iMovie. It's usb C but a lightning/usb adapter is all that's needed to use my lightning compatible pre amp.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it seems like as bluehome1 noted, something like an Apple cable adaptor might work.  Two adaptors for $7 on Amazon.

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[Michael Messer]

Eddy, that does work, but with the mic on the end of that adaptor it all becomes a bit top-heavy and easy to break. That's the reason I sold the Shure MV88.

It is excellent that Apple have got rid of the lightning cables and plugs and gone to USB-C, but it has left a few things unusable.

Shine On
Michael

[slide496]

I'm wondering if the issue of projecting the vocal over the guitar is an issue or if others have had the issue and successfully adjusted it. Or maybe that's a topic for another thread...H

[Michael Messer]

Jul 4, 2024 13:21:06 GMT slide496 said:

I'm wondering if the issue of projecting the vocal over the guitar is an issue or if others have had the issue and successfully adjusted it. Or maybe that's a topic for another thread...H

Harriet, If you are only using one mic it does take a bit of time to get the right balance between vocal and guitar. If you just can't get comfortable with that, there are two options - (1) get a different mic that records a wider or omnidirectional polar pattern, or (2) use two mics and a mixer, which then involves mixing after the recording to get it right. I learned to project my voice when I started out doing unamplified gigs in noisy rooms, so I'm okay with one mic positioned carefully. Perhaps this subject should be moved to a new thread.

Shine On
Michael

[slide496]

Jul 4, 2024 14:34:30 GMT Michael Messer said:

Harriet, If you are only using one mic it does take a bit of time to get the right balance between vocal and guitar. If you just can't get comfortable with that, there are two options - (1) get a different mic that records a wider or omnidirectional polar pattern, or (2) use two mics and a mixer, which then involves mixing after the recording to get it right. I learned to project my voice when I started out doing unamplified gigs in noisy rooms, so I'm okay with one mic positioned carefully. Perhaps this subject should be moved to a new thread.

Shine On
Michael[/quote]
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Thanks for the reply  - I was curious as to whether you "positioned carefully", I am aware of your expertise in vocal projection.  

One other option not mentioned. If you are recording into a mac or pc using usb mics and Garageband or similar - and that can include those mics which need to use an adapter to fit usb functionality, is that you can make an aggregate mic combining 2 usb mics which will record simultaneously on separate tracks. On a mac that is through the "audio midi setup". You don't use a mixer for that and can adjust both before and after in garageband or similar.

[Michael Messer]

Jul 4, 2024 18:00:10 GMT slide496 said:

Jul 4, 2024 14:34:30 GMT Michael Messer said:

Harriet, If you are only using one mic it does take a bit of time to get the right balance between vocal and guitar. If you just can't get comfortable with that, there are two options - (1) get a different mic that records a wider or omnidirectional polar pattern, or (2) use two mics and a mixer, which then involves mixing after the recording to get it right. I learned to project my voice when I started out doing unamplified gigs in noisy rooms, so I'm okay with one mic positioned carefully. Perhaps this subject should be moved to a new thread.

Shine On
Michael

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Thanks for the reply  - I was curious as to whether you "positioned carefully", I am aware of your expertise in vocal projection.  

One other option not mentioned. If you are recording into a mac or pc using usb mics and Garageband or similar - and that can include those mics which need to use an adapter to fit usb functionality, is that you can make an aggregate mic combining 2 usb mics which will record simultaneously on separate tracks. On a mac that is through the "audio midi setup". You don't use a mixer for that and can adjust both before and after in garageband or similar. [/quote]

You absolutely can do that and maybe I confused you by saying "mixer", ..."because adjust both before and after in garageband or similar" is using a mixer. You are mixing/adjusting the separate tracks using the GarageBand mixing facilities.

Here's something I was mixing a few months ago, so you can see what I am explaining.



Pay no attention to the names of the tracks, I always give them stupid names! Then I make a Ruff Micks .....then listen to that and then do a final mix. And sometimes that can be many mixes until I reach the point of it being the final one.

Shine On
Michael

[slide496]

Thanks for sharing the Logic Pro work in progress. By the use of the word mixer I meant a piece of hardware equipment like the Scarlett Focusrite, which is called properly (I think) an "audio interface" that you connect xlr mics to so stand corrected.

[richclough]

Hi,

I’m going to try recording the audio two different ways while filming the video, for starters:

1) Separately mic voice and guitar, set the levels, and record the mix direct into the phone.
2) Use a secondhand Shure mv88+ (on the way…) to go direct and pay attention to the vox/guitar balance as I’m playing.

I’ve got a feeling that 1) will be better for picked acoustic songs (less dynamic range on the guitar part), and 2) will be better for resonator and strummed acoustic…we shall see next week. 😀

Cheers,
Rich
P.s. thanks for the Mv88 recommendation Michael!

[richclough]

Jul 4, 2024 13:21:06 GMT slide496 said:

I'm wondering if the issue of projecting the vocal over the guitar is an issue or if others have had the issue and successfully adjusted it. Or maybe that's a topic for another thread...H

This would make a good separate thread. One of the reasons I love my resos is the massive dynamic range relative to standard wood acoustics. It means that it’s easier to back off the guitar when the vocal comes in to create some sonic space for it, and then play louder again when it drops out. It feels like another voice rather than ‘backing’.

Cheers,
Rich