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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 27, 2024 17:55:04 GMT
That's a great description of Son's style! One of my favourite songs of him is My Black Mama, very similar to Death Letter Blues, also with snapping, I think he played it on wooden guitar. There's also Charley Patton's snapping walkdown My Black Mama is extremely cool because the snapping is on the 4 and 5 chord in half time on the opposite beat to the main riff. Charlie Patton's descending snapping bass line is like a Bernard Edwards or Bootsy Collins disco funk bass, also very cool. Shine On Michael
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Post by 1928triolian on Mar 1, 2024 13:57:46 GMT
double post, sorry
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Post by 1928triolian on Mar 1, 2024 23:33:34 GMT
That's a great description of Son's style! One of my favourite songs of him is My Black Mama, very similar to Death Letter Blues, also with snapping, I think he played it on wooden guitar. There's also Charley Patton's snapping walkdown My Black Mama is extremely cool because the snapping is on the 4 and 5 chord in half time on the opposite beat to the main riff. Charlie Patton's descending snapping bass line is like a Bernard Edwards or Bootsy Collins disco funk bass, also very cool. Shine On Michael Yes, extremely cool and even cooler as Son House snaps the 5th string in 5th position ( in half time on the opposite beat ) just implying the 4 and 5 chords, without actually playing them.
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Post by snakehips on Mar 2, 2024 10:47:11 GMT
Hi again ! Getting back to the topic of Plastic Fingerpicks !!! Using my favourite two finger picks that best fit my index & middle finger, I chose a Diamond bottleneck slide for each pick, that fitted snugly half way down the inside of each bottleneck. Next, I mixed up some 2-paste silicone impression putty and pressed into the the bottleneck, until it expressed through, almost to the other end (at the inside tip of the pick (see pictures). Once the silicone putty was set, I pulled out the putty & fingerpick together. I had to cut away some silicone to help remove the pick. So now, for each pick, I have a “finger” of silicone putty, giving a mould of the inside suface of a fingerpick. Next ……. I have to seen if it works !!! I’ll try to reshape a pile of picks that are currently no use to me, as they don’t fit my fingers - and pop them into boiling water yntil they start to loose their shape, then quickly whip them onto my silicon mould and wrap the pick around it - and hold until they cool. Hopefully, this will work !! Will keep you posted !
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 2, 2024 11:28:36 GMT
Could you make me some fingerpick front teeth please? 😜
Shine On Michael
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Post by bonzo on Mar 2, 2024 11:37:29 GMT
My brain hurts 😫
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Post by snakehips on Mar 2, 2024 19:58:03 GMT
Hi again !
Well, I dropped some finger-picks into a cup of boiling water, straight from the kettle. I seemed to remember doing this YEARS ago and the picks splayed out into a flat T-shape. That’s what I thought would happen this time - then I could pull them out, wrap them around my new silicone mould/former/fingers - and hold until they cooled perfectly in shape. That was the plan.
Unfortunately, the water was evidently not hot enough ! They didn’t get hot enough to be able to reshape them.
Anyone know what I need to do ? Pan of boiling over water, to keep the water at 100 C ? Will that be hot enough ??
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Post by bonzo on Mar 2, 2024 20:13:10 GMT
OK. I will say this only once! Pour boiling water into a cup. Hold the fingerpick in the jaws of some long nose pliers. Dip the pick into the hot water and squeeze until they are the right size to fit your finger. (This will be a matter of judgment and trial and error). Immediately put the pick into cold water and it will retain its size. Put on finger and play!
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Post by bonzo on Mar 3, 2024 9:46:34 GMT
I give up!
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Post by snakehips on Mar 3, 2024 10:40:16 GMT
Bonzo - when I tried with boiled water, the plastic did not soften enough - it just slightly sagged. This was not enough softening to completely remould around my silicon mould. I could wrap it around my mould but there was enough spring back that I knew it wasn't softened enough.
Maybe I'll try again with water boiling in a pan, as I'm sure that as soon as I pour some into a cup, it might drop to 90 C or something within seconds ! May need the FULL 100 C.
The fingerpicks tend to come shaped as a circle around your finger. However, my fingers - especially my middle one - is more a curved-corners rectangle.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Mar 3, 2024 10:50:42 GMT
I have no serious interest in this subject at all as I don't use picks.
However, before you start nancying around trying to scald yourselves or setting your house on fire, it may be an idea to determine which particular polymer your picks are made of. You can then find the appropriate softening, glass transition and melting point temperatures of the particular polymer (Google is your friend) which may be of help in determining which way to go with your reshaping method. Don't forget that time can also be involved, too. Also worth pointing out that there will be residual stresses in your picks which, unless they are relieved, will cause spring back.
Just my 2 bobs worth...
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 3, 2024 11:30:14 GMT
Bonzo - when I tried with boiled water, the plastic did not soften enough - it just slightly sagged. This was not enough softening to completely remould around my silicon mould. I could wrap it around my mould but there was enough spring back that I knew it wasn't softened enough. Maybe I'll try again with water boiling in a pan, as I'm sure that as soon as I pour some into a cup, it might drop to 90 C or something within seconds ! May need the FULL 100 C. The fingerpicks tend to come shaped as a circle around your finger. However, my fingers - especially my middle one - is more a curved-corners rectangle. You have to have the water boiling in a pan, otherwise it doesn't soften the plastic enough. I have been reshaping plastic picks for 35 years, so I have tried all the various ways of doing it. Two dips in the water for each pick - first the blade and then the wrap-around One pair of small pointed pliers and one plumbers grips - grips to hold the pick and long straight pliers to reshape the blade. Then same again the other way round. pliers to hold the blade and grips to reshape the wrap-around Under cold water tap after each process. There are always some failures, so buy more than you need. Once they really fail there is no saving them Plumbers grips Shine On Michael
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Post by jono1uk on Mar 3, 2024 18:58:46 GMT
I have seen my friend Ian Siegal snap on the low "E" string ( probably in D) when he used his vintage National .. sounded amazing!! ..
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Post by Michael Messer on Mar 3, 2024 19:59:30 GMT
I have seen my friend Ian Siegal snap on the low "E" string ( probably in D) when he used his vintage National .. sounded amazing!! .. Jono, I did not say that you can't, I said it must be controlled and when Ian does it, it is controlled. Shine On Michael
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