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Post by pete1951 on Apr 21, 2023 8:41:44 GMT
This is one song often played at jams, I have tried to play slide accompaniment and some of my efforts come close to a few of the string sounds. I thought as I am house bound for a few weeks ( knee op) that I should try and play it as closely as possible to the original. Of coarse there will be some harmonies I will never get being restricted to open G ( though I also could play it on lap steel in an odd G6th tuning, which give me true minor chords as well as 6ths)
Has anyone done this? Or know of a YouTube video that explains the string parts? I can’t read music but there are readers in the family so music notation can be easily decoded .
As a (slightly) deaf person I find it difficult to differentiate notes when in the big lush chords of the arrangement.
I am going to sit down with some musicians over the next week or so ( rather than a blues players like me ) and hopefully will sort it out but if any forum members have already done the hard work I would love to hear from you. Pete
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Post by bonzo on Apr 21, 2023 8:48:25 GMT
Are you sure you don't mean kneed your love so bad Pete! Good luck with the operation mate 👍 🎸🎸
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 23, 2023 9:23:56 GMT
Know someone who has an Ultimate Guitar ap. the string parts are written out in tab for standard tuning. The first chord I can do (almost) and it moves to a slant ( no happy doing that on slide, so the lap steel has been dusted down ( not that I am any good at slants,but at least it’s possible. Pete
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 24, 2023 8:37:46 GMT
Next hurdle.....
The TAB is all above the 12th fret, this sounds ok, I have lots of frets so what could be the problem?
Turns out that for all my years of playing I have never really thought about what notes or numbers the upper frets etc. were. I have always thought of the upper frets as frets 1-12 an octave up.
So when the TAB says 21 on the top string I first have to adjust to my tuning,( so 23) ( I have more than 24 ‘frets’ on the lap steel) then drop it an octave( so 11) and then slide up to where my octave 11 is .
This may take awhile
I’m sure a computer wiz could feed this stuff into a laptop and get an amended printout in no time......I have a pencil
Pete
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Post by blueshome1 on Apr 24, 2023 16:33:53 GMT
That's a tune to put away with Hoochie Cochie and Route 66 that should be banned from all jams.
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 24, 2023 16:44:37 GMT
Though not one I would ‘lead’ at a jam, it does come up from time to time, and when it does,I want to be ready!
Pete
Sometimes (apart from 12 bars) this will be one of the only bluesy tunes that all the musicians have in common,
Except of coarse the less chordy of Jimi Hendrix like All Along the Watchtowers etc.
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 24, 2023 16:51:40 GMT
To get a convincing string sound I will need to put my guitar through a swell pedal. Unfortunately I can’t use my right foot at the moment,and the left feels ‘wrong’
I may need to go back to the drawing board! Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 24, 2023 16:55:16 GMT
That's a tune to put away with Hoochie Cochie and Route 66 that should be banned from all jams. It's amazing how this song became such a classic rock'n'roll song and has been covered so many times. ...and so it goes on! Oops, apologies for steering off course for a moment. Pete, stick with your pencil, they work really well. Shine On Michael
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 24, 2023 17:19:56 GMT
No, not off course, just the possibility of a new thread....... Rout 66 did come up a lot (years ago) but most of the younger jammers don’t seem to play it ( unlike Red House, Little Wing, Watchtower, I Shot the Sheriff, Moondance, there are lots) Just played along with a couple of tracks, if it turns up will try to join in on lap steel . Pete
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 29, 2023 6:50:19 GMT
To try and follow the strings is a nightmare ( for me ,as a blues guitarist) I think I need to be a peddle steel player, with all those extra harmonic possibilities. Looks like I will be making up my own arrangement,hopefully with the feel of the original strings.
There’s a jam that I might get a lift to next week , I know the guy running it knows the song , so may do it then
Pete
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 29, 2023 8:18:33 GMT
IMHO it's better that you play your own interpretation. I remember a young turk at a local jam giving me a severe bollocking for playing Love in Vain with 'different' chord changes to him. He had only heard the Rolling Stones version. "Who's Robert Johnson?" he asked. I went for a smoke and a second pint...
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 29, 2023 9:27:41 GMT
I’m not sure I have heard any of RJs work ‘improved’ by adding chords or changing rhythm .
This is probably material for another thread........... Pete
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Post by mikeholland on May 1, 2023 8:41:44 GMT
I made a YouTube video of “ Need Your Love So Bad” a few years ago. It was on a Lap Steel Guitar tuned to C6/A7 tuning. I think I just used a generic backing track.
I also play it at Jam sessions lap style on my Gretsch Resonator. It’s a great song to play with a good singer. I don’t have a video of it by I am sure I could tab it out if anybody is interested. Mike
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Post by pete1951 on May 1, 2023 10:28:30 GMT
Well played Mike, I can ( though not as accurately) do the ‘tune’ and solo stuff. The way to reproduce the violin sound (without a pedal steel and swell pedal) is still a mystery Pete
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Post by mikeholland on May 1, 2023 11:13:31 GMT
Sorry Pete, I hadn’t understood that you was looking to emulate the strings sound on your slide guitar. You would have thought I had learned to read by now😄!
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