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Post by davetracey on Apr 1, 2023 11:10:15 GMT
1. I buy mainly cds and then records. Occasionally dvds/blu rays. Box sets from Bear Family are a constant temptation.
2. I buy music most weeks. This weeks have been cds by Albert King and Muddy Waters - from Discogs/eBay, and vinyl by The Grateful Dead from Amazon.
3. I always listen at home on my hi fi. Also on a portable cd player in the kitchen when I'm in ear shot. I play a cd on my one 10 minute car journey a week. Never use headphones.
4. I watch clips on youtube.
Cheers!
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Post by zero on Apr 2, 2023 3:05:46 GMT
Vinyl only for me. I stopped buying CDs mostly because the mastering was just too inconsistent. The compression they use on CDs was know issue for a long time and they never seemed to do anything about it, so I stopped buying them. That's OK I have a good sized vinyl collection to hold me over.
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Post by gordon on Apr 2, 2023 23:21:12 GMT
Good questions, interesting to learn what people's habits are these days. 1. New and secondhand I buy LPs rather than CDs unless the price is way too high. I go to a couple of local independent record shops that I like to support, at gigs, now and then off Discogs. It's complicated, there's lots of music that is very hard to find on LP, or that's been reissued with unheard material on CD, like Mance Lipscomb on Arhoolie, or never been issued on LP, like many Cephas & Wiggins albums and other more contemporary blues artists so no choice but to get the CD. No Amazon.
2. I buy records pretty often, maybe ten so far this year and there are a couple of records coming out this month I'm hoping to get. Bandcamp usually get a couple of purchases from me on their no-fees Fridays. Next Friday!
3. Listening is on the stereo at home or phone and headphones on the move.
4. Traditional radio, not so often these days unless I hear that someone's done a session or been interviewed. I really like the Big Road Blues podcast (sundayblues.org), and though I dislike YouTube it is practical.
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Post by khayman on Apr 3, 2023 2:43:52 GMT
1. CD and stream Amazon unlimited (new music) 2. I buy new CDs, but I also look around for CDs on the used market 3.Home Hifi, on the smartphone with ear buds at work 4. no online radio, but streaming podcasts on Amazon unlimited
Gerd
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Post by twang1 on Apr 3, 2023 11:20:19 GMT
I only buy CD, mainly second hand from all over Europe. I sold all my albums and turntable 20 years ago. I buy CD regularly. I listen to music while drivin' and on a very good hi-fi system at home I never listen to music on the radio, and the only radio I do listen to regularly doesn't have any music!
Frank
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Post by mitchfit on Apr 3, 2023 20:42:07 GMT
when audio CD sales began the rise into popularity in the early 1980's a very brief "golden age" started as music industry conglomerates rushed into turning their analog music catalogs into digital.
lucky that many older 33.333 RPM LP vinyl albums that really weren't selling well anymore got included trying to sell same again. lotsa my much played favorite albums had started to sound like gravel roads, and the industry didn't deem another vinyl pressing run as being cost effective.
when they cost about $10 each, i tried my very best to replace nearly all the most loved LP's. came really close to completing this quest. have about 500 near new CD's that i plan to remain pristine much longer than myself.
THEN I GOT EXTREMELY OVERZEALOUS ABOUT LIMITING ACCESS TO THOSE ALLOWED TO PLAY THEM. recalled all of the ditches dug in my vinyl by my own much denied ignorance.
for the most part the precaution worked, even with two kids emerging into their musical maturity at that time. only allowed them to play music they had purchased. making them earn THEIR own PHD in the school of hard knocks.
i do listen to much old and new tunes on Utube at times and try to get what sounds good in CD. [sparse #'s]
but to quote MM from a long past posting, i start to get "snow blind" after very much of this.
mitchfit
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Post by littlebobby on Apr 4, 2023 14:05:15 GMT
1) don’t tend to buy CD anymore. Pay for online streaming. After buying Charlie Parr’s newest album at a show last year because he looked forlorn on his merch table I bought a turntable and I’m gradually getting my favourites and classics on record. My old collection mysteriously disappeared from the loft of my former family home after I was upgraded to a rich man.
2) listen on earphones, Bluetooth in my van, Bluetooth speaker when cooking or lounging in the bath and on separates / hifi system when I get a chance and often on Friday night with some beer on board after a hard week.
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Post by richclough on Apr 5, 2023 8:25:50 GMT
1 - Spotify premium, occasional 2nd hand vinyl
2 - Occasionally
3 - Stream to a Boom speaker at home, stream in car, occasional CD or vinyl through home stereo/Boom.
4 - In car Radio 2, my own and others Spotify playlists
Cheers, Rich
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Post by muddy056 on Apr 11, 2023 17:48:54 GMT
Great questions I have been buying records and cd's for a long time, i did download all my cd's to hard drives and add new ones as i collect, not interested in streaming but understand i am most likely in the minority. Listen to mostly blues, Jazz, folk and rock, But like alot of guitar players when i was into old timey music or country blues or john coltrane i would go on a spree.
1 - What format do you buy ? Lets see, I buy CD's, Records, downloads from bandcamp which many times. I can get a hard copy, bought a new table so if a record is available i will shoot for the record otherwise a CD.
2 - Do you buy music regularly, or occasionally? I buy regularly, love getting new music to listen to.
3 - How & where do you listen to music - home hifi, car, computer, smartphone with ear buds etc....? I have my main system in the living room love the big full sound although robert johnson sounds great too , smaller studio monitor/headphone system in my guitar room,
4 - Do you listen to music on terrestrial radio (BBC, CBC, ABC etc), online radio, podcasts, or streaming playlists? Siris radio in the car, still have a cd player so sometimes a cd, also bluetooth with my phone.
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Post by thinline72 on Apr 16, 2023 12:40:37 GMT
1 - Stream on Spotify. Sometimes I buy a digital version of an album if it's not available on Spotify. 2 - Occasionally as I mainly use Spotify subscription. 3 - Laptop and smartphone with ear buds. 4 - Sometimes I peak into others streaming playlists to find new music. I'm also following "What are you listening to?" thread here
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 16, 2023 15:01:44 GMT
Thank you for al these very informative answers to my questions.
Interestingly, this morning I received a similar questionnaire from a music magazine that I subscribe to.
The music industry is in turmoil about what to do and how to sell it. That is the big problem, none of us in the industry care about which format is being bought, as long as it is being bought. The problems with streaming as I see it, are as follows...firstly, we the recording artists and writers of the material receive disgracefully low payments from the streaming companies, but from the punter's point of view, 9.99 pounds dollars euros or whatever per month for unlimited listening is a pretty good deal. Then again, is it such a good deal when (a) you don't own it, and (b) even with HD quality membership you don't get CD quality 44.1kHz / 16-bit. Audio CD bitrate is always 1,411 kilobits per second (Kbps). The MP3 format can range from around 96 to 320Kbps and streaming services like Spotify range from around 96 to 160Kbps. High bitrates appeal to audiophiles, but they are not always better, which basically means it is the equivalent of a photocopy.
Does this matter? Well it does to the artists and producers who spend time, money and all their creative juices to make beautiful sounding music WAV files. An average 3 minute track is a 30mb WAV, and the same track as an mp3 is around 3 to 4mg. So something like 80% of the file is removed, much like a photocopy of a photograph. I think if streaming could be equal to CD quality that it would be something I would consider subscribing to.
I listen to mp3s too. In fact I listen to them all the time in my car, in my kitchen and sometimes on my hifi system, and they seem fine, that is until you hear the full size WAV or record on a proper hifi system. The difference is truly dramatic. A couple of weeks ago I experienced exactly that - I bought an album on CD and straight away loaded it into my phone as a high quality mp3. I listened to the album while driving around and thought it was a pretty good album, but not special. Then a few days ago I put the CD on the hifi in my living room and it blew my socks off! It is a superb album with an amazing sound that has been beautifully created.
This must all sound very old school and just "old", but I struggle with this. I also struggle with the idea of virtually giving my music away to the streaming companies so they can make zillions and we, the life blood of their industry, make zilch. WTF and what's the point!
I am saying all this and asking these questions because I have a new album that is finished and ready to go, that I am just about to pitch to record companies, and because I am considering re-releasing my whole back catalogue. I would love all this stuff to be available, but it hurts me to see it lining the pockets of Mr Spotify with me getting a few scraps.
Mitchfit reminded me of my own words and I still have that problem too. How does one use Spotify, Apple Music and all the others without going snow blind. When you can listen to any piece of music that's ever been recorded, how do you choose?!! I find it hard enough on my phone which currently has 460 albums squidged somewhere inside its gizzards.
Tomorrow I have a meeting with a very experienced distributor / record company guy that I am going to pitch similar questions and points of view to. I am intrigued and interested to hear what he says about the sales of all the formats and how it is affecting his business as one of the UK's leading music distributors.
Shine On Michael
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Post by mitchfit on Apr 16, 2023 19:20:02 GMT
MM,
well here's hoping that your meeting is not an unauthorized/bootlegged copy of "Have A Cigar".
best wishes, mitchfit
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Post by simonf on Apr 16, 2023 19:31:41 GMT
I'm late to the party. However I use MP3s heavily in the car which is where I hear most music. I do not have any streaming subscriptions. I do donwload from Bandcamp- often because thats all thats available. Where its available I will buy something permanent (usually CDs) so I own it and can still enjoy it when things are offline, or companies disappear or change their rules etc.
I don't listen to radio music on the whole. I rarely use a smartphone with buds - but will use it to play stuff on speakers at work or in my workshop.
I do buy vinyl (picked up a copy of Diving Duck recently in my local record shop...) It is frustrating when people sell new vinyl and don't include an mp3 download code though. I think if I pay for the vinyl, I ought not to have to mess around trying to extract an electronic copy for the car. It can be enough to persuade me to buy the cd instead, or just buy a download.
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Post by mark1977 on Apr 22, 2023 14:12:50 GMT
Also late to the party. 1 - What format do you buy - CD, vinyl, download, or stream on Spotify/Apple etc...? CD.
2 - Do you buy music regularly, or occasionally? Occasionally since retiring but when I was fully waged I was what I believe HMV staff referred to as a '£50 bloke' i.e. would wander in and spend circa £50 on some CDs and DVDs two or three times a month. 3 - How & where do you listen to music - home hifi, car, computer, smartphone with ear buds etc....? Home hifi, on my phone sometimes if I am out with earhones connected by wires as I would lose earbuds within a few nano-seconds. I also listen to music from my phone when cooking in the kithcen. I have a few hundred LPs, some 12 inches and the world's worst collection of 45 singles (the last lovingly assembled from record shop bargain bins and motorway service station shops during the 1980s). I also have a circa 100 of cassettes of stuff taped from the radio or my own LPs - there are some gems from Paul Jones' radio show in there if I recall. However at the moment due to space issues in the way our house is arranged I'm only listening to CDs if we are talking physical media.
I also listen to a lot of stuff on YouTube mainly as a way of discovering stuff I haven't heard before. This will sometimes lead to a CD purchase. Anything can set me off on down a YouTube rabbit hole - a reference in a book, an article about a musicican or band in the Gruaniad or a discussion on this forum for example.
4 - Do you listen to music on terrestrial radio (BBC, CBC, ABC etc), online radio, podcasts, or streaming playlists? Rarely.
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Post by mckinleybe1 on Apr 23, 2023 15:12:47 GMT
For years and years I bought albums/records/vinyl and then CD’s. Now almost all of which are stored away in boxes along with my old CD player. I recently brought out my old turntable and have bought some new vinyl records as well as some used ones. Mostly I buy music at local, small venue shows because it seems more money gets in the artists pocket then. I also found an old used copy of Michael Messer’s Diving Duck on vinyl that I had to buy. I do pay for a monthly subscription to Apple Music and I also buy digital music on occasion. I listen to that in the car, on earbuds and on the home hifi along with the vinyl. After all these years, I don’t listen to recorded music nearly as much as I used too. My listening time at home has been replaced by a few old vintage Nationals and a few vintage banjos. So the car is where I listen mostly. I would have to agree that the streaming services are really not a good way to put more money in the pockets of the artists one likes. I have a subscription and contribute to that problem. When possible, I do buy music directly from the artists website. Whether that makes a difference, I’m not sure. The younger generation under 25 have mostly never experienced music other than streaming or youtube. I don’t know how that will change or become more equitable for the artist. I always have told my 21 year old and 29 year old sons to make sure and buy music when you can. Now they buy me vinyl records for my birthday. No easy answers on this, Michael. All the best with the decisions you have ahead of you for the new album and the back catalog.
Brian
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