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Post by lonelyjelly on Sept 26, 2021 23:11:08 GMT
Hey
Not sure which section is best to ask this so please feel free to move it along if inappropriate, but just wondering if anyone on the forum has tried flat wound strings on a reso, and if so what were the results?
Cheers
Lew
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Post by kristo on Sept 27, 2021 5:25:32 GMT
Hello mate. When I played jazzy stuff on a resonator I used Newtone Doublewound archtop strings and was very happy with them. I didn’t really like the flatwounds I tried.
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 27, 2021 7:42:12 GMT
Flatwounds on a resophonic guitar don't work.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by lonelyjelly on Sept 27, 2021 7:50:57 GMT
Flatwounds on a resophonic guitar don't work. Shine On Michael Thanks for your response Michael. Is it because they are too mellow? Is there a science behind it? Cheers |
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Post by lonelyjelly on Sept 27, 2021 7:52:42 GMT
Hello mate. When I played jazzy stuff on a resonator I used Newtone Doublewound archtop strings and was very happy with them. I didn’t really like the flatwounds I tried. Cheers Kris. Yeah I've considered trying the round wounds - I think I saw a thing where Steve James said that's what uses nowadays...58-14 I think we're the gauges. Do you mind if I ask what didn't work so well with the flat wounds? Cheers Lew |
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 27, 2021 10:54:15 GMT
Flatwounds on a resophonic guitar don't work. Shine On Michael Thanks for your response Michael. Is it because they are too mellow? Is there a science behind it? Cheers Hi Lewis, To me they sound like dead strings, just useless. The only way to find out for yourself is to get a set. Shine On Michael |
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Post by blueshome on Sept 27, 2021 11:17:25 GMT
The tape winding damps the string vibration. This is the favoured sound for heavily strummed arch top rhythm or the dead sound favoured by many jazz guitarists.
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Post by kristo on Sept 27, 2021 13:00:19 GMT
Hello mate. When I played jazzy stuff on a resonator I used Newtone Doublewound archtop strings and was very happy with them. I didn’t really like the flatwounds I tried. Cheers Kris. Yeah I've considered trying the round wounds - I think I saw a thing where Steve James said that's what uses nowadays...58-14 I think we're the gauges. Do you mind if I ask what didn't work so well with the flat wounds? Cheers Lew As Michael said, they sounded too dead. The Newtones had the benefits of normal strings but without the string noise. Cool strings. |
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Post by Stevie on Sept 27, 2021 15:31:44 GMT
I thought tape wound was different from flat wound? That's the trouble with assuming.
e&oe ...
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 27, 2021 15:36:21 GMT
As soon as you deviate from the original invention to try and improve it, you ruin it (IMHO). That tends to be the rule of thumb for many things.
Shine On
Michael
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Post by bluesdude on Sept 27, 2021 16:23:54 GMT
If its finger squawks your trying to get rid of , I always pass a piece of crocus paper over the g-string mainly,works great,,,,,,,,,,
Kenny,
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Post by lonelyjelly on Sept 27, 2021 19:05:03 GMT
Thanks for your answers and suggestions. I just saw a video of Michael Watts experimenting with flat wounds on a regular acoustic flat top and it got me thinking about the reso. I am just curious about the tonal qualities but given your thoughts, what I've read on AGF and the fact that a set of flat wounds is around £18 I think I'll give the experiment a miss.
Another question, weren't phosphor bronze strings a new thing once upon a time (in the 70's?) after 80/20 bronze, Monel and nickel strings?
Cheers
Lew
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 27, 2021 19:34:38 GMT
Thanks for your answers and suggestions. I just saw a video of Michael Watts experimenting with flat wounds on a regular acoustic flat top and it got me thinking about the reso. I am just curious about the tonal qualities but given your thoughts, what I've read on AGF and the fact that a set of flat wounds is around £18 I think I'll give the experiment a miss. Another question, weren't phosphor bronze strings a new thing once upon a time (in the 70's?) after 80/20 bronze, Monel and nickel strings? Cheers Lew Everything was a new thing once upon a time. The 1970s thing is a myth. Phosphor bronze strings for guitars was started by Gibson in 1932, 80 years ago. It wasn't a reinvention of a guitar string, just a better or different sounding material for the windings. Making a guitar string flat wound is kind of playing with the physics of what makes a guitar string work properly, which really only works when plugged in because they kill the acoustic sound. What I originally liked and still do about Newtone strings is that they use original string-making designs and they make the strings by hand. Michael Watts is a good friend of mine and is a masterful virtuoso musician. Thanks for mentioning Michael Watts because he asked me to play on his new album and due to lockdowns and other craziness I haven't done it yet. Shine On Michael |
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Post by lonelyjelly on Sept 28, 2021 9:30:52 GMT
I'd still like to give flat wounds a go for more complicated fingerstyle stuff on a flat top as I think there's a quality to a slightly dull and noiseless string...more of a padded sound instead of a bright or zingy shimmer.
I didn't know that about Newtone Strings being hand wound so that's food for thought ! 😎
Good luck with the album with Michael Watts
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Post by Michael Messer on Sept 28, 2021 10:08:10 GMT
I'd still like to give flat wounds a go for more complicated fingerstyle stuff on a flat top as I think there's a quality to a slightly dull and noiseless string...more of a padded sound instead of a bright or zingy shimmer. I didn't know that about Newtone Strings being hand wound so that's food for thought ! 😎 Good luck with the album with Michael Watts That's one of the main points about Newtone strings. They are literally wound by hand using a slow spinning motor. The winding is guided onto the core by the maker's thumb as the core is spinning. This way the metal doesn't get hot and therefore the strings sounds and feels livelier than mass produced strings that are wound at incredible speeds and therefore come off the machine hot to the touch. I think I'm only playing one track of Michael's, but we must nail that one down. Shine On Michael |
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