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Post by paulsblues12 on Apr 28, 2021 21:12:02 GMT
Hi all I finally managed to put a couple of photos
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Post by tigercubt20 on Apr 28, 2021 22:23:45 GMT
that is very low. if it has the bolt on handrest, unscrew it, dont drop the screws, from memory they are allen setcrews, the thread is cut into the coverplate, its a fine thread so be carefull. look at the buscuit to see if its been lowered, check the cone to see if its been compressed.
i would expect with strings so low, that the action would be very low, or the truss rod has been adjusted to bring the neck forward, which defeats the point of lowering the biscuit in the first place. the height of the strings under the handrest are definately too low. did you buy it new, or used ?.
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Post by tigercubt20 on Apr 29, 2021 2:15:07 GMT
Hi all I finally managed to put a couple of photos before you start dismanteling your guitar, fire up utube and look for justin johnson, you may have to hunt around, to find him playing a honeydipper. you can see some packing under the tailpiece.
to me he appears to have a low action and not very heavy strings, but it works for him....jim
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 29, 2021 6:36:30 GMT
Looking at those photos I suspect there is something seriously wrong with cone and set up. The biscuit is way too low under the coverplate - looks like the cone has been compressed. I would suggest that if you bought that guitar as new, don't mess about with it or remove anything. I would send it straight back, ask for a refund and then use the money to buy an MM Blues or Lightning.
...no affiliations...
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 29, 2021 8:32:42 GMT
It is a little difficult to see your photos because they're dark, but from what I can see it does not look right at all. The strings are too low and no amount of packing under the tailpiece will help. In fact it will make it worse, because it will reduce the break angle and raising the bridge saddle on such a low biscuit will reduce volume and tone. So my advice at this point is to either talk to the dealer you bought it from, or take it to someone that understands resonator guitars. If you bought it new, do not start messing with it or the guarantee will be void.
Shine On Michael
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Post by paulsblues12 on Apr 29, 2021 13:07:51 GMT
Hi! It shouldn’t be possible for the strings to touch the cone, do you mean the cover plate perhaps? Chris Hi Chris, Ive managed to put a few photos on here now
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Post by paulsblues12 on Apr 29, 2021 13:14:18 GMT
Looking at those photos I suspect there is something seriously wrong with cone and set up. The biscuit is way too low under the coverplate - looks like the cone has been compressed. I would suggest that if you bought that guitar as new, don't mess about with it or remove anything. I would send it straight back, ask for a refund and then use the money to buy an MM Blues or Lightning. ...no affiliations... HI Ufortunately I bought it second hand from a friend of a friend who I dont think would have sold it to me if it was damaged I guess even she did not know there was this string problem as she never changed the strings It was only when I changed them that this problem arose. Thank you for your post.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 29, 2021 13:19:50 GMT
Ah, OK.
I think then it is time to find someone who REALLY knows about resonators and their foibles (not the local Mr. Guitar Fixit) to have an in hand look at it for you.
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Post by bonzo on Apr 29, 2021 14:26:52 GMT
Hi Paul. Don't be disheartened by what must seem all bad news. In some ways a collapsed cone could be the simplest way to go. Where are you located? You never know, might be a conehead round the corner! Resonator guitars are a lot of fun, I'm sure you'll have a good outcome if you persevere. As you have seen already you will get lots more advice and help from your fellow forum members.
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 29, 2021 16:01:19 GMT
From the photo I would have thought that the action has dropped. Is it still playable? Usually the bridge is much higher and cone collapse is probably the reason . This is not the first Honey Dipper on the forum with cone problems. Cones are surprisingly delicate when out of the guitar, though they will take a lot of weight from above. If you feel brave, remove the strings and cover plate and have a look at the cone and post some pics. Only do this if you have the correct screwdriver, if you don’t know the difference between Phillips and Pozi bits you should probably stop now. Also if you rarely use a screwdriver this may be a job for , if not an expert then a carpenter or someone familiar with hand tools. Pete
As bonzo says, we are a bunch of people very happy to give advice, and if one of our number who ‘tinkers’ with resos lives near you might be able to take it to them for advice . There is nothing like seeing the guitar to diagnose faults)
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Post by paulsblues12 on Apr 29, 2021 16:34:35 GMT
Hi Paul. Don't be disheartened by what must seem all bad news. In some ways a collapsed cone could be the simplest way to go. Where are you located? You never know, might be a conehead round the corner! Resonator guitars are a lot of fun, I'm sure you'll have a good outcome if you persevere. As you have seen already you will get lots more advice and help from your fellow forum members. Best wishes to you all, John Hi John, I wont get disheartened I have remedied the problem temporarily I do have a guitar repairer friend who did not want to take my money as he thought all that was needed was the tailpiece to be lifted ( he is not a resonator repairer ) I live In Norfolk England. I will look to see if there are any resonator repairers near me. Once our covid lock down is lifted I will be going to the guitar shops to try and buy px The Gretch for hopefully a better resonator as I know this is an entry level guitar I have a friend that plays a National to come alone and help me Thank you for your post Paul
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 29, 2021 17:09:49 GMT
I have played a few Honey Dipper guitars ( in shops) and they are one of the better budget resos, Michael Messer guitars are a step up , but the Gretch isn’t too bad. I live in Cambridge and would be happy ( on a fine day ) to have a look at your guitar. Pete
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Post by paulsblues12 on Apr 29, 2021 20:45:47 GMT
Hi Pete, I'd be happy to show you the guitar as you say on a good day and after this covid lockdown I'm in Heacham Norfolk so not too far Cheers Paul
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 29, 2021 21:59:07 GMT
Great, I have a big garden (and a couple of spare cones) we should be able to sort things out. If you find someone closer feel free to go to them . Pete
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Post by paulsblues12 on Apr 30, 2021 7:46:37 GMT
Hi all would it be ok to put a short video of the previous owner playing my Gretch This is the video I lookedat/listen before I bought it As I thought it sounded ok Only asking as I dont want to get into trouble by just posting it It is quite short In length. Cheers Paul
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