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Post by bramley on Apr 19, 2021 17:28:41 GMT
Any one ever tried this or have any thoughts? ( The shaded area would be cut off, then the bridge fixed somehow to the biscuit)
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 19, 2021 17:30:58 GMT
There was a tread about such things recently, possibly when NRP brought out their compensating bridge.
Pete
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Post by leeophonic on Apr 19, 2021 17:44:07 GMT
Bit late for the April fools picture!!!!
Lee
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Post by bramley on Apr 20, 2021 13:29:45 GMT
Bit late for the April fools picture!!!! Lee Ha, sorry, no joke intended ! I'm an experimenter at heart and the results have been pretty good to date . Nothing ventured etc.
I play a lot of "behind the slide" chords on electric resonators and often the triads are a wee bit sour intonation wise , slanting the biscuit etc doesn't help enough and I don't have time to re-tune to suit each song .. |
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Post by gaucho on Apr 20, 2021 22:50:46 GMT
That looks like a good bit of weight to deaden the cones vibrations....
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 21, 2021 11:24:42 GMT
To get ‘perfect ‘ intonation on a Reso ( when fretting) some compromise will have to be made. It is probable that the best tone/sound will come from a straight,narrow bridge. To get intonation ‘ perfect ‘ the saddle will need to be 4-6mm depending on your strings . I suppose you could use the Tune-a-Matic as a guide to get the desired intonation points ,then make a wider than normal box/maple saddle, with a wider than normal slot in the biscuit, keeping the Gibson style bridge would be silly and a clumsy fix to get your intonation right.
Professional reso players have been playing without this luxury ( or abomination , depending on your point of view) for 90years .
Having said that, bramley, I know plays a long necked reso, so fretting behind the slide ,often above the 12 fret is something he wants to do in tune. A long necked Reso-electric will already have a compromised tone ( usually a very thin body etc. ) so in this case it may be something to consider, but for a 12 fret to the body it is probably a step too far.
My own long necked reso has a 4mm saddle filed to give compensation to the plain G and I am very happy with the intonation ( though I rarely fret behind the slide) . Would it sound ‘better’ with a standard saddle, probably, would it play as ‘in tune’ above the 12th fret probably not.
Life is full of compromises and this is one I am prepared to live with.
Have I put 4-6mm saddles on any 12 or 14 fret guitars? No.
Pete
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Apr 22, 2021 7:11:43 GMT
I find all this stuff about modified bridges and biscuits a bit weird.
Does/has anybody fitted ladida fine tuning bridges on flat top acoustics or classical guitars because of intonation 'problems'?
Top players seem to be able to make great music with imperfectly intoned guitars and nobody seems to notice (or, like me, they just don't care).
IMHO musical perfection = bland.
...I'll get my coat.
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Post by pete1951 on Apr 22, 2021 12:10:15 GMT
Professional reso players have been playing without this luxury ( or abomination , depending on your point of view) for 90years . Have I put 4-6mm saddles on any 12 or 14 fret guitars? No. Pete I think PD and I are very nearly on the same page. |
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Post by slide496 on Apr 22, 2021 13:19:20 GMT
I see the same thing that Gaucho commented on- the weight. Another factor to consider IMHO is the strings positions woud not be adjiustable horizontally with it and it looks like they extend beyond the traditional biscuit.
H
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Post by davey on Apr 22, 2021 14:26:13 GMT
I find electric resonators a bit weird. Just get two Guitars (or more).
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Post by bramley on Apr 25, 2021 14:43:45 GMT
I find electric resonators a bit weird. . That's the challenge ! I too found electric resonators weird but knew they could sound better , even the most expensive National resolectrics had that ugly piezo quack to my ear.
I just wanted a guitar that didn't leave me glued in front of an SM 57 but had the atmosphere of a good cone sound.
At the risk of seeming immodest I'll re-post this in case you missed the build thread.
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Post by davey on Apr 25, 2021 16:50:35 GMT
That sounds very nice indeed. Is the pickup providing all the sound there or is the cone contributing ?
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Post by bramley on Apr 30, 2021 14:17:13 GMT
All cone, and no external mic... The DI sound is a CB radio type dynamic mic element ( often used in DIY harp mics) mounted under the cover plate , the magnetic p/up isn't doing much besides sending to reverb at the mixer.
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