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Post by bonzo on Mar 23, 2021 9:26:06 GMT
Nice looking guitar Adam. 😎🎸👍
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 23, 2021 9:58:54 GMT
Great looking guitar, I have made a Res Paul ( that seems the best name) with an old Les Paul copy body. Though I put a longer scale neck on it to bring the cone down into the body. Looks like you won’t need much help with this , good luck
Pete
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 23, 2021 11:54:02 GMT
One thing springs to mind, and that is how to get sound generated from the back of the cone into play. National on their 1133s had on open back with a flat cover plate ( this is common on Tele conversations) . On some small body instruments they put holes around the well to let sound from the body back into the top of the cone. Do you have any ideas on ways of releasing the sound from the back?
Pete
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Post by Dolando on Mar 24, 2021 8:22:18 GMT
Nice looking guitar Adam. 😎🎸👍 Thank you! 👍 |
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Post by Dolando on Mar 24, 2021 8:25:16 GMT
One thing springs to mind, and that is how to get sound generated from the back of the cone into play. National on their 1133s had on open back with a flat cover plate ( this is common on Tele conversations) . On some small body instruments they put holes around the well to let sound from the body back into the top of the cone. Do you have any ideas on ways of releasing the sound from the back? Pete Thanks for the info, not an idea i would have thought about doing. I looked at the 1133 and get what you mean. Not sure I understand what you mean by the holes around the well? Do you mean on the back of the body drilling into cone cavity? |
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 24, 2021 12:39:15 GMT
 Here’s a quick sketch of a couple of cross sections. The ‘well’ on an acoustic reso. has the cone sitting on it. So if there are no hole in the body ( other than the cover plate grills) the sound from the back of the cone can’t get out . The 1133 s way is to put a cover over a large hole in the back ( Tele conversations often have a pattern of holes drilled in the back) and the Reso-mandolin can have holes in the side of the well so the back-tone can get out. Pete |
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Post by Dolando on Mar 24, 2021 14:58:50 GMT
Here’s a quick sketch of a couple of cross sections. The ‘well’ on an acoustic reso. has the cone sitting on it. So if there are no hole in the body ( other than the cover plate grills) the sound from the back of the cone can’t get out . The 1133 s way is to put a cover over a large hole in the back ( Tele conversations often have a pattern of holes drilled in the back) and the Reso-mandolin can have holes in the side of the well so the back-tone can get out. Pete Ah thats kind of what I had in mind. That could be something I do once it’s done. See how not sounds first... My republic reso doesn’t have those holes either so wondered if I made holes above the cone route wall it might improve the sound...? |
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 24, 2021 15:14:35 GMT
The Republic has the F holes (plus’s the 3 holes similar to Dobros) ,these should do the job. It is possible that the distance between the back of the cone and the F holes gives a better sound than a setup with no F holes and holes in the well. With the holes so close you may get more phase cancelation and end up with less volume?*. Resonator guitars usually follow the same basic pattern ( cover plate with holes and sound hole each side of the finger board) Most of the best sounding one do, the ‘holes in the well’ design was for instruments tuned to a higher pitch and with a small body. It will probably give a better acoustic tone on a Reso-electric, but Reso-electrics are a compromise instrument, they will not handle like a real Reso nor like a solid body, they are something in between .
Pete
*as I am not an acoustics expert this may be rubbish
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Post by bramley on Mar 27, 2021 3:16:02 GMT
Nice looking build on the previous page!
My sixpence worth, I haven't tried a Continental cone ( that I know of) but have tried a lot of various Asian and boutique US cones in resolectric style guitars. The National Hotrod in a solid body build to my ear maintains more of that special mid range character we all hear and feel as "cone tone". |
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Post by Dolando on Apr 6, 2021 19:26:18 GMT
The Republic has the F holes (plus’s the 3 holes similar to Dobros) ,these should do the job. It is possible that the distance between the back of the cone and the F holes gives a better sound than a setup with no F holes and holes in the well. With the holes so close you may get more phase cancelation and end up with less volume?*. Resonator guitars usually follow the same basic pattern ( cover plate with holes and sound hole each side of the finger board) Most of the best sounding one do, the ‘holes in the well’ design was for instruments tuned to a higher pitch and with a small body. It will probably give a better acoustic tone on a Reso-electric, but Reso-electrics are a compromise instrument, they will not handle like a real Reso nor like a solid body, they are something in between . Pete *as I am not an acoustics expert this may be rubbish Sorry for the late reply. Life just gets in the way! Thanks so much for the info, definitely some thing to look into. I was also contemplating the fish man biscuit bridge pickup paired with the magnetic one to really bring out some of that biscuit sound....? |
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Post by Dolando on Apr 6, 2021 19:27:34 GMT
Nice looking build on the previous page!
My sixpence worth, I haven't tried a Continental cone ( that I know of) but have tried a lot of various Asian and boutique US cones in resolectric style guitars. The National Hotrod in a solid body build to my ear maintains more of that special mid range character we all hear and feel as "cone tone". Yea I’m still contemplating getting the national hotrod cone....is a hell of a lot more expensive. Tempted to get that and a cheap one and do a comparison between them.... |
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