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Post by bramley on Feb 11, 2021 20:22:11 GMT
Thanks for adding me to the forum. I've lurked long enough!
For those interested in electric resos, I have been tinkering with how best to amplify electric reso build projects for quite a few years, sound wise (plugged in) this is my most successful to date. The body was a reject from Vermont luthier S B MacDonald, no name neck, Gibson/dobro cover plate and a National Hotrod cone.
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 11, 2021 22:24:08 GMT
Hi bramley, welcome to the forum. I have been known to make the elec/Reso am am always trying to get the acoustic tone as good as possible. Do you have a clip of it unplugged? Pete
Is the sound just from the magnetic pickup? You can here the that it’s a resonator, which is often lost with magnetics, well done.
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Post by bramley on Feb 12, 2021 5:38:13 GMT
Thanks! I'll post a file of unplugged sound asap, it's a poplar body , quite light and clear sounding .
The set up is :
Seymour Duncan magnetic sharing the stereo jack with a dynamic harmonica mic capsule mounted on the side of the sound well pointing down at the cone. The capsule is 1" x 1/2" so plenty of room to mount it and feedback characteristic is good for average volume playing.
The clip is mostly the internal mic capsule with the magnetic used at the mixer only to send to reverb ..
There is a piezo disc on the bass side of the biscuit top which has it's own output on the endpin jack which I usually run through an old Tech 21 Sans Amp to get rid of the quack.
There are a lot of possible combinations from the three outputs, I'll do some more clips as examples..
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 12, 2021 8:05:48 GMT
feedback characteristic is good for average volume playing. [/div] [/quote] The results are impressive, though what many want is ear-splitting volume without feedback. More information about the harp mic, it does sound good. Pete
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Post by bramley on Feb 13, 2021 21:41:25 GMT
Probably any ham radio dynamic capsule would work because of the limited bandwidth.
I had tried an SM 57 capsule , sounded great but they're too tall to fit in the sound well. At 1/2 " high this one looked perfect so I took a gamble, it worked out really well. FYI I have also tried 2.5" piezo film attached to the cone, it gives good cone tone but a bit boomy and unbalanced.
IMO you just have to watch youtube videos to know that many who want earsplitting volume with a reso electric are not looking to hear the atmosphere of a good national cone sound. I wanted a guitar that delivered that but let me move around.
I'll figure out how to upload an mp3 here and get the unplugged clip done.
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 14, 2021 10:07:37 GMT
Great stuff, what amp was the mic capsule going through? Pete
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 14, 2021 10:33:25 GMT
Hello Bramley,
Welcome to our forum.
Your guitar sounds very nice and your have a sweet touch with both hands. Lovely!
Shine On Michael
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Post by bramley on Feb 15, 2021 23:19:20 GMT
Thank you Michael, that means a lot!
Uploaded for Pete as requested. This is an SM57 about 3 inches in front of the guitar. I played along with a drum loop so there's a bit of bleed.As you can hear the tone is there basically , but the internal capsule sounds much "fatter".
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Post by pete1951 on Feb 18, 2021 18:28:07 GMT
Thanks, the acoustic tone is still pretty good for such a thin instrument. I have made 3 or 4 similar guitars (I think they all had Continental cones, which are the best farEastern made one you can get) none sounded as good as yours, I do have some NRP cones, I might swop with the one I have in my electric/Reso, though I have been very happy with Continental cones up to now. Pete
Have also listened to the other tracks, lots of stuff there for future talk.
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Post by bramley on Feb 19, 2021 17:11:34 GMT
The Hotrod cone has a lot to do with it but I think I got lucky finding the body on Ebay, Scott MacDonald is very good builder.
The other reso clips on Soundclick are from my first attempt at a reso-tele ( pictured) about 15 years ago.
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 9, 2021 21:34:10 GMT
As promised , some idea of what my Reso-electric sounds like. At the moment not as resonator like as bramley has managed with his ( I think I will try the mic capsule idea) though I think mine might be louder. At the moment it has 013-50 strings tuned to G# Spanish with a Continental cone. Pete
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Post by leeophonic on Mar 9, 2021 22:04:25 GMT
Good stuff Pete, nice guitar and playing
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Post by bramley on Mar 10, 2021 16:40:42 GMT
Sounds great acoustically ! Is there a link to that build on the forum ? I would love to see more of how you made the body, beautiful work.
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 10, 2021 22:29:23 GMT
Thanks for the comments, I didn’t do any photos when I made it but I now need to fit a mic capsule so I will be taking it apart soon. It is made in a very odd way. The white strip running around the body is in fact the edge of a sheet of 6mm ply that the cone sits on. I let it stick out ( and rounded it off) to look like the centre cover strip on National Glenwood and other Resoglas bodies. Hopefully some photos soon Pete
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Post by pete1951 on Mar 11, 2021 9:24:49 GMT
Here is a pic to give some idea of its construction. The top is an old road sign, hammered into a guitar shaped curve. The shield shaped hole for the biscuit is large, so I felt it would not need very big sound holes, ( inspiration for the hole’s shape came ,of coarse ,from the famous badge used by the Salvation Army) Pete The neck is screwed on , there are 2 screws ( going in at an angle) under the plastic plug and another 2 under the pickup
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