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Post by Kris on Aug 14, 2020 22:11:07 GMT
New moniker but same Kris. I’d love to share my new single with you all The Ballad of Blue Docherty By: The Curse of K.K. Hammond Hopefully this link to the full video works. It’s available on all the major platforms should anyone wish to download or buy it. Thank you in advance to anyone who fancies a listen www.instagram.com/tv/CD4SXlJHbGO/?igshid=anzkv5as818z
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Post by pete1951 on Aug 22, 2020 17:53:43 GMT
Lovely video, took me back to my boyhood in the Deep South Pete
Ok , so it was the Deep South of England, but as a blues fan I did have dreams
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 20:12:17 GMT
Wonderful tune and performance. Your vocal is very effective in bridging multiple genres. ...but is that Mickey Rooney??? Or hopefully a look-alike...even that is risky unless you are willing to pay royalties...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 21:36:25 GMT
This is really good K.K. Love the way your reso kind of ties it to Delta blues but your voice takes it somewhere more contemporary. BUT you really shouldn't be encouraging children to smoke ;-) More please.
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Post by Kris on Aug 26, 2020 11:57:24 GMT
Wonderful tune and performance. Your vocal is very effective in bridging multiple genres. ...but is that Mickey Rooney??? Or hopefully a look-alike...even that is risky unless you are willing to pay royalties... Apologies, I never get reply alert from the app! Thank you for your kind words. I understand the inclusion of the clip falls under transformative fair use.
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Post by Kris on Aug 26, 2020 12:02:44 GMT
This is really good K.K. Love the way your reso kind of ties it to Delta blues but your voice takes it somewhere more contemporary. BUT you really shouldn't be encouraging children to smoke ;-) More please. Thank you so much! Hopefully the demonstration that children who smoke get eaten by alligators will fulfill my moral obligations!! Haha!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 16:08:39 GMT
Wonderful tune and performance. Your vocal is very effective in bridging multiple genres. ...but is that Mickey Rooney??? Or hopefully a look-alike...even that is risky unless you are willing to pay royalties... Apologies, I never get reply alert from the app! Thank you for your kind words. I understand the inclusion of the clip falls under transformative fair use. Kris...that is good to know. I am hoping to someday put together a youtube program and need to learn about “fair use”...though not sure where to look for information. I think that one factor is dwell time on the subject...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 21:25:05 GMT
I've occasionally been in the position of wanting to use someone's photos but can't contact the copyright owner to ask permission.My attitude is if your using someone's work on a strictly not for profit basis then go ahead--I like to think I'm helping in some small way to promote their efforts.Let's face it,in the case of photos at least,it's quite simple to stamp 'copyright (insert name)' on your pics.May well be different in the case of film though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 2:54:32 GMT
I did a search on “transformative fair use” (a term I first heard of from Kris) and found some examples of case adjudications. Yes it seems that not-for-profit usage is one factor, but does not seem to be straight-forward...there seems to me that there is a lot of judicial interpretation involved. You may need deep pockets to prevail in some cases...
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Post by Michael Messer on Aug 30, 2020 8:33:40 GMT
I only just noticed this thread as I have not been around much in the past few weeks.
The people that create the original piece of art, such as film makers, photographers, musicians, writers, painters, graphic designers etc... should ALWAYS be PAID, or, if there is no money involved because it is not a commercial venture, the creator of the work should be approached, asked and CREDITED. The Internet has made a joke of copyright and it is totally unfair and wrong. Why should anyone use an artist's work without going through the proper channels. People would soon understand if they lived off the income from sales of their work and royalties.
Shine On Michael
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Post by Kris on Aug 30, 2020 11:39:13 GMT
I only just noticed this thread as I have not been around much in the past few weeks. The people that create the art, such as film makers, photographers, musicians, writers, painters, graphic designers etc... should ALWAYS be PAID, or, if there is no money involved because it is not a commercial venture, the creator of the work should be approached, asked and CREDITED. The Internet has made a joke of copyright and it is totally unfair and wrong. Why should anyone use an artist's work without going through the proper channels. People would soon understand if they lived off the income from sales of their work and royalties. Shine On Michael Starting out as a musician in the modern day is both a blessing and a curse in that all the tools for self publishing and online promotion lay in your hands. You can be a unique entity unaffiliated to any record company and collect a vast majority of your royalties. Amazing in some ways, utterly terrifying in others. You are on your own with no one to point out and handle all the fine print for you and guide you along. It’s very frustrating and there is an immense amount to take in, all in a very abrupt fashion. I have an adversion to all the apps most younger people have a vivacious and obsessive connection to these days and, in wishing to share a new tune with like-minded musicians, I had to take a bit of an overnight crash course. I’m now a newbie to YouTube Music, Spotify, Soundcloud, Shazam, Apple Music, Amazon Music, CDbaby, PRS, Musixmatch, and the plethora of other sites I suddenly find myself affiliated to via my publisher, and having to manage on my own. I very much hope I’ll be taking it all in my stride eventually but, as someone who hates tech with a deep and unwavering passion, it’s been far more frustrating than it has joyful. I appreciate a new musician very quickly has to acknowledge and accept that the music business is not all sunshine and rainbows or else they are going to have a bad time. That being said, I am under no illusion that this venture is going to be a “business” for me, I’m solely passion-driven and just want to share some music I enjoyed making with folks that will, hopefully, enjoy listening. This is a niche genre, arguably a classical one, and it will absolutlely amaze me if my humble song gets a couple of hundred hits. With so many i’s to dot and t’s to cross. I neglected to add the film credit to Instagram like I had on other channels, a mistake I absolutley take on the chin. I have now rectified that to ensure the credits are reflected across the platforms. As so far as asking permission for the Rooney footage, this movie is in the public domain. It was published in the United States between 1925 and 1977, inclusive, without a copyright notice. I’d love it if the music itself could be the focus of this thread. I put immeasurable amounts of love and passion into creating an original song. I am saddened this thread has been detailed over the video, which was solely the conduit selected to share my song here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 12:07:46 GMT
I will take the blame for the topical detour from the music to the copyright law. But a major reason I participate on a forum is to gain knowledge, and the use of the clip in the video raised my interest. It is true that many vintage film segments are used in contemporary productions... There may be overarching issues with celebrity facial recognition...but that is for a discussion on some other forum.
But I amplify what I tried to say in my original post...the song, performance and video is extraordinarily good...not only in technical quality but in true feeling. It far exceeds most content coming out these days.
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Post by Kris on Aug 30, 2020 12:17:27 GMT
Thank you Fred, it is very kind of you to reiterate that and very much appreciated. I am actually extremely relieved that the video took the heavy criticism rather than the song! Haha! The song is my baby, the video is just incidental. I just saw it as some fun stock footage to give folks something more interesting to look at than a static image whilst listening to my work.
It’s always wise to learn what one can and use it for our future betterment so I have certainly taken comments on board. I will seek to create a completely original video next time. The technology is at our fingertips after all, (frustratingly, the Mississippi delta is not!)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 12:45:11 GMT
Well, actually the video is great also.
Its likely that 4 of 5 people viewing will not even recognize Mickey Rooney...but for me and those that do recognize, seeing his face is actually somewhat of a distraction from the content. For me it was a jolt of sorts...hey what is he doing here...and broke the mood I was feeling.
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Post by Michael Messer on Aug 30, 2020 13:45:20 GMT
Kris,
My comments were not just relating to your video, they were a reaction to some of the comments that followed.
I completely understand and I am always very supportive of young people coming into the business. It was not long ago that I too was a young musician trying to find my way. I also made mistakes, mostly related to signing my name on pieces of paper, which I am still paying for and trying to put right. Make no mistake, the music industry is a business and it is a tough one, a very tough one. The passion happens in the creative process; the writing, playing, recording, performing of the work. Once that is done there is no passion, only business. So while an artist like yourself might only be expecting to get a couple of hundred views and a few sales, it is still a commercial venture. The writer's percentage of a few sales is not worth very much at all, but the writer's percentage of a thousand or a million sales is a whole different thing. One never knows which it will be. Either way, one or a million copies, the creator must be paid and/or credited.
Regarding Mickey Rooney footage; while the film itself might be in the public domain, you might find that the family have control over the use of his likeness. I have seen this with another legendary name. There are always loopholes, especially when you are dealing with the estate of one of Hollywood's legendary names. I'm sure it's fine and the Rooney family won't come after you, but it is always worth checking and doing this stuff properly, especially when you are using this person's likeness to help sell your product. Just flip it around and you'll understand how it feels. You see your face, or hear your music being used or being copied to help sell a product and you were not asked, credited, or paid. I have been in that position and it is not very nice.
I try to keep the music and the business separate, well as separate as possible. When I am travelling to a venue, festival or a studio, when I am talking to the people that run these things, that is business. The moment I set foot on a stage or into a recording studio and start playing, that is art, not business. A great friend of mine, a legendary session musician, says he gets paid to travel and to be away from home, the music does not have a price.
Yep.... Back to the MUSIC!
Shine On Michael
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