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Post by damflask on May 29, 2020 15:59:08 GMT
Ever since I saw a picture of Mike Eskimo's blue Collegian on the old IGS forum ( Hi Snakehips!) I'v hankered after a blue resonator guitar. I bought an MM Blues off Evilbay last week which had been resprayed in a bluish colour, and has an NRP cone, but it wasn't really blue enough for my liking. So, Ive bitten the bullet today, taken it apart and carefully rubbed it down. I'm going to brush paint it (as Mike's had been) and I'm going to lose sleep over it if it's not perfect. My question is - do I need to prime it first? Or just the bare metal bits? Or none of it? I've got this daft idea in my head that too many layers of paint will affect the tone.
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Post by bonzo on May 29, 2020 16:17:40 GMT
Hi Damflask. If the paint on the guitar now is 'sound' i.e. not flaking or bubbling off then you're good to go. A good clean and a light sanding will do the job. I've used good quality water based paint with excellent results, don't need anything to exotic. Maybe use 2 shades of the same blue and break the finish so one shade shows through the other. It's basically like painting the front door. I've never noticed any detrimental change in tone, pretty much all guitars have some finish or other on them.
Good luck, pictures please!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by damflask on May 29, 2020 16:36:56 GMT
Thanks! Do you think that I should prime the small areas of bare metal?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 17:11:54 GMT
If you want the topcoat to have a uniform feel and color, the base coat should be uniform. To be perfect, remove all of the existing paint, prime, and repaint. Otherwise, just paint over it and most likely you will be satisfied and will not have any issues with paint compatibility.
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Post by bonzo on May 29, 2020 17:27:37 GMT
Hi Fred. I agree with everything from the 3rd sentence on! Lol! Keep it simple!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by pete1951 on May 29, 2020 17:28:50 GMT
Looks like the guitar has been sprayed, so itβs likely to have acrylic car paint on it at the moment. Like fred I would probably strip it completely . I would most likely spray finish Pete
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Post by rbe on May 29, 2020 17:38:45 GMT
Damflask, I think the color you are looking for is an engine block blue. You can find it in rattle-cans, so application shouldn't be too difficult or expensive. As far primer goes, you most likely don't need it. It depends on what is going over what. Some paints do interact and cause lifting. Chances are that won't happen. Especially if the original paint is polyester. I would suggest the rattle-can route. Easy to apply and doesn't have to go down heavy. And, if you are not worried about a "perfect" looking finish, rattle-cans can get you there, too. Find a color you like and try it without primer. If it works, you're done. Here is an image of a blue guitar I have. Painted and decals done sometime in the late 40s or 50s. I really like the grayness of the blue. Makes it look less "pretty" and more industrial. I bought this guitar to refinish, but it is way too cool to even mess with. Just did the needed neck and cone work to get it right again. I don't recall how the finish was applied on "Mike's Collegian". I worked on that guitar quite recently and didn't pay much attention to the finish. As usual, there was evidence of the original yellow under the fingerboard extension and on the inside. So it was painted with the neck on. The wear and natural patina that guitar has is a big part of its charm. It makes the blue finish look old (might be, too). Good luck.
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Post by damflask on May 29, 2020 18:07:25 GMT
Oh wow! Hello RBE, was looking at that guitar in the picture yesterday. I'm guessing you were on IGS too? From memory Mike described it as 'rental blue' and NRP do a version of it now.
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Post by rbe on May 29, 2020 22:56:03 GMT
I was on IGS. That was an interesting forum.
The Reverb listing when Mike sold it says it's Pontiac engine block blue. That should give you a starting point.
I don't think the NRP blue is quite the same, but it looks good.
I always love seeing a respray that includes the neck-stick. I think that is what masking tape is for.
Anyway, keep it simple.
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Post by damflask on May 30, 2020 6:15:32 GMT
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Post by snakehips on May 30, 2020 10:29:02 GMT
Hi there ! Do you have a link to that specific IGS thread ? Thanks !!! I suppose I must have posted in it ?
I stripped a repainted 1930 Polychrome Triolian to be rewarded with a worn but original finish underneath.
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Post by Pickers Ditch on May 30, 2020 10:52:04 GMT
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Post by damflask on May 30, 2020 18:11:21 GMT
Did it today!
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Post by bonzo on May 30, 2020 18:51:48 GMT
You gotta be pleased with that! ππ
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Post by damflask on May 30, 2020 18:59:27 GMT
Turned out pretty well
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