matsoh
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Post by matsoh on Oct 11, 2019 8:44:47 GMT
New owner of a Messer Blues, satisfied but having problems with the intonation. Belived it would get better after putting on new strings, but it still gets out of tune plaing chords. Any input on this? Adjustments?
Added two links, first one old strings, second new strings:
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Oct 11, 2019 9:23:51 GMT
To be me blunt normal self, I can't hear the problem - just wish I could play like that. Maybe it's a gnats cock out but it sounds great. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post by bonzo on Oct 11, 2019 10:10:46 GMT
Hi Matso, wot PD sez. If you've just got the guitar you are probably 'over listening' to the guitar rather than the music you're making! We all do it with new things I'm sure. Let it settle down for a week or two with lots of playing and I'm sure the intonation concern will slip from your mind. Many of us on the forum own MM guitars and recommend them constantly. Enjoy your new guitar.
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by richclough on Oct 11, 2019 10:36:17 GMT
Couldn't hear an intonation problem. Listening through an old iPad. Nice playing. š
If you can point to a (minute, second) point in either video when you are hearing something that would be useful. It would be interesting to see if you still hear it tomorrow, or over good headphones, or through speakers....our brains play tricks sometimes and different playback mechanisms exaggerate different frequencies. I keep hearing things in mixes, then don't hear, then hear something else when a bit of eq has been put on, then don't hear following compression, then the following day it'll be something else...or not. Generally not.
I love the way resos respond to new strings. Resos exaggerate everything.
Cheers, Rich
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Post by Michael Messer on Oct 11, 2019 11:24:34 GMT
Hi Matsoh, I can hear that your chords are very slightly off and this is something that resonator guitarists have worked around since the 1920s. It is not to do with anything more than the design of a resonator guitar. Any type of compensated bridge is pointless, so it is a matter of slight adjustments until you are happy. I must stress that intonation on any guitar is a compromise. My advice is to get two pencils or something similar - slacken the strings a tone or so and then using the two pencils on the bridge saddle, one to push the bass side back and the other to push the treble side forward - lay the guitar on its back and just push the two at the same time (one forward and one back) which basically twists the position of the biscuit. A millimetre or two should do it. As others have said on this thread, don't over worry about this because your playing and your guitar sound lovely, but it also must sound pleasing to you, so a little adjustment will fix it. Another thing that happens is that as you get to know your guitar you will find the way to work with the anomalies of your instrument. Here's a couple of photos that I think should explain what I am saying. I couldn't hold the pens and take the photos! If you have problems, please come back and talk to me and others on here. Shine On Michael
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matsoh
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Post by matsoh on Oct 12, 2019 7:35:06 GMT
Thank You all for replays and input. Iāll go for your suggestions Michael and try āthe pencilsā. Despite my issue with intonation, Iām very satisfied with this reso. So well built and so fitting my references.
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