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Post by resolive on Nov 11, 2017 3:29:54 GMT
I'm afraid I'm not yet to the point where I can come up with this stuff by myself so I was hoping that someone could point me to some sheet music like this guy is playing (is this a known song? It sounds really good...): Thanks!
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Post by Brad Bechtel on Nov 11, 2017 5:55:03 GMT
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Post by lonelyjelly on Nov 11, 2017 10:50:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 11:02:55 GMT
Can recommend this Steve James DVD though it does seem a bit pricey. Click.
BTW that guy is a forum member called Snakehips.Check out his youtube posts/lessons by clicking here
(Mine's a pint of Heavy Snakey)
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Post by Michael Messer on Nov 11, 2017 12:38:20 GMT
I do not believe that sheet music (musical notation written on a music staff or stave), or any written notation or TAB material is the way to learn to play any type of folk music, or orally passed on music. I do believe that working with a teacher is a fantastic way to learn, but if there isn't a good teacher around, then tuition DVDs, Youtube footage, and the original recordings, are the best learning tools available. TAB can be helpful, but because there is no timing or accenting of notes in TAB, it can also be a hindrance.
Slide guitar is an instrument that does not use fixed notes, so all accuracy of notes is achieved by using ones ears, and so many notes are not 'true', they are slightly sharpened or flattened to create a mood or feel. Writing down slide guitar notation is not, IMHO, a good way to share or pass on the knowledge.
Nothing could be clearer than watching Richard playing in that Youtube video. No written material could match that as a way of explaining what is being played. But... before learning what Richard is playing, I believe it is important to study and listen to the people that he has listened to in order to play like that. Earl Hooker, Robert Nighthawk and Muddy Waters, all playing in standard tuning, are three musicians that spring to mind when I hear what Richard is playing. They are the people to study, the originators of the style.
Shine On Michael.
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Post by slide496 on Nov 11, 2017 12:50:14 GMT
Oops! Misinformation per topic per MM's correction - I thought this was an Elmore James type playing and it's apparently not -so removed in the in the interest clarity!-"how cool is the Internet," to quote MM's post below Best, Harriet
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Post by lonelyjelly on Nov 11, 2017 12:57:03 GMT
I agree to a large degree - tab or notation is good I think for guidance...like reference notes. For fingerpicking Blues anyway.
Listening and watching is definitely key in learning something, especially like slide guitar. I guess it’s a bit like learning a language, you can read all the teach yourself books available but that can’t compare to spending time in a foreign country in and amongst the locals, absorbing the language and picking up words, phrases and eventually sentences through immersion.
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Post by Michael Messer on Nov 11, 2017 13:59:43 GMT
Harriet, both writing at the same time about the same thing, but on opposite sides of the world....how cool is the Internet!
As far as I know, Elmore James only played slide in open tunings, never in standard, which is what Richard is doing. I know Richard likes to play in the Elmore James style, but that is not what I am hearing in his video.
Shine On Michael
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Post by resolive on Nov 11, 2017 14:00:16 GMT
True. I have Bob Brozman's book and I can definitely tell that what is written needs to be 'completed' by listening to him playing it. So it's a good base to start out from and expand on to truly make it come to life on your own..
A friend gave me 'kindhearted woman' about 6 months ago, from the RJ book Brad mentioned above, I really liked it, it's challenging and it took me a while to be able to play it, I think I'll order the entire thing. It's got "Terraplane Blues" for example and Brozman definitely plays it very differently than RJ... in fact it's a good example of the above: when you listen to Brozman playing it and you read alongside it, you notice all kinds of little things he does that are really cool but definitely not written... makes for days of 'study' (by which I really mean 'fun'!). :-) Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 14:55:16 GMT
Why do some people cling to the notion that you have to copy something note for note and with vibrato,accentuation etc. exactly as per the original before you've cracked it? I believe Richard is playing this in open D, as per Elmore James,Michael. He says so at the start of the video anyway and goes on to play an open D arpeggio. I reckon most of the old bluesmen would be tickled pink to think a young(ish) white boy was replicating their music eighty years on and 5,000 miles away. Probably the best Scottish version in the world!
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Post by creolian on Nov 11, 2017 15:03:43 GMT
Just when I think I've seen it all... A blues guitar player asks for sheet music Just kidding. I think what you want is more accurately called a Lead Sheet. All Best, Jeff
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Post by Pickers Ditch on Nov 11, 2017 15:07:19 GMT
I reckon most of the old bluesmen would be tickled pink to think a young white boy was replicating their music eighty years on and 5,000 miles away. Probably the best Scottish version in the world! The blues started in Scotland. Just listen to the drone and the slurred notes from the pipes. ..and listen to Sam Lays and Francis Clays drumming - you can hear them pipe and drums bands.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 15:46:15 GMT
I reckon most of the old bluesmen would be tickled pink to think a young white boy was replicating their music eighty years on and 5,000 miles away. Probably the best Scottish version in the world! The blues started in Scotland. 8-) Just listen to the drone and the slurred notes from the pipes. ..and listen to Sam Lays and Francis Clays drumming - you can hear them pipe and drums bands. ;) Few slurred notes here PD but they weren't intentional. CLICK
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Post by bonzo on Nov 11, 2017 16:00:15 GMT
If that was you Graeme I'm well impressed!
Best wishes to you all, John
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Post by slide496 on Nov 11, 2017 16:09:00 GMT
Why do some people cling to the notion that you have to copy something note for note and with vibrato,accentuation etc. exactly as per the original before you've cracked it? I believe Richard is playing this in open D, as per Elmore James,Michael. He says so at the start of the video anyway and goes on to play an open D arpeggio. I reckon most of the old bluesmen would be tickled pink to think a young(ish) white boy was replicating their music eighty years on and 5,000 miles away. Probably the best Scottish version in the world! Hi Graeme, Where did you see that on the beginning of the video - I've gone through it a couple of times and can't find it. Thanks, Harriet
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