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Post by rickS on Feb 21, 2007 17:03:11 GMT
PS - JJ Cale track would have to be 'Crazy Mama', that got him on national TV & almost famous, if he could've been arsed..
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Post by Bill Stig on Feb 21, 2007 17:16:17 GMT
That's the problem with the terminology that's addressed in the SLIDE GUITAR >STEEL GUITAR >WHAT'S IT CALLED? thread. We're all grouping all styles under "slide guitar" but "steel guitar" usually seems to be viewed as something other than "slide". Tell B.J. Cole he must include "Christine's Tune" by the Flying Burritos; I had it on in the car this morning and bounced into work. Talking of George Harrison there are Beetles tracks with slide on and I'm pretty sure John Lennon played slide on some. Without going through my record collection I can't recall which ones - "Old Brown shoe" I think, off Let it Be.
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Post by wolvoboy on Feb 21, 2007 17:35:07 GMT
Hi there, theres {MEAN OLD WORLD }duet on dobro eric clapton and duane allman} another cover clapton did {IT HURTS ME TOO} recorded at the sessions for one in every crowd duet on slide guitar with George Terry amazing .another one from Clapton THE SKY IS CRYING,,Jeff Beck did with Jimmy page BECKS BOLERO ,Also John Dummer blues band {I CANT BE SATISFIED Nick Picket on slide replaced Dave Kelly, also the great Peter Greens fleetwood mac {albatross}Tont MCphee (I F I HAD POSSESSION OVER JUDJEMENT DAY} on slide guitar ,just a few to be going on with. keep pickin and slidin Wolvoboy
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 21, 2007 17:59:36 GMT
These are good, but not brutal enough! I want the defining moments, and rather interestingly it comes down to only a very few players. Apart from electric slide guitar arriving in the late 40s, very little has changed in 100 years. It is still a 6 string guitar played with a tube on the finger (Slide guitar) and working around similar musical themes to the early recordings of slide guitar. Eric Clapton, Chris Rea, Jack White and Duane Allman are not playing anything very different to Blind Willie Johnson, Hambone Willie Newbern, Elmore James and Muddy Waters. An interesting thought.
Bill - George didn't play much slide until post Beatles. The slide guitar on Let It Be 'For You Blue' is actually John playing steel guitar. It's that terminology again! And Sneaky Pete (Flying Burritos) is definitely in there.
Wolvoboy - Albatross is a good one that I hadn't thought about. It was a very important record. Mean Old World is wonderful and so are the Clapton songs from 461 Ocean Boulavard. I haven't heard the John Dummer Band for years - my old friend Tony Walker on bass. What a great band they were.
Keep 'em coming! Shine On, Michael.
Shine On, Michael
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Post by mirrormist on Feb 21, 2007 18:10:57 GMT
I remember walking into a café in Bewdley on the banks of Severn and being blasted by Canned Heat’s “Let’s work together” for thr first time…great stuff. Badfinger’s “No matter what” may well have been George Harrison…it has his signature all over it and was my immediate thought. For me “While my guitar gently weeps” is the beez kneez. Perhaps in the near or distant future the landmarks for this period of this thread will be redefined and take account of stuff that was definitive without necessarily being a commercial success. Enjoying this thread…oh and did anyone mention Rory Gallagher circa 1970 with taste
Regards
Anthony
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 21, 2007 18:21:06 GMT
Canned Heat - I think Al 'Blind Owl' Wilson is a very important figure in the history of slide guitar, much more so than he is credited for. Let's Work Together is a great record, I still have my original 45 on Liberty. Another great one that is rooted in the George Harrison camp along with Badfinger & My Sweet Lord, is 'If Not For You' by Olivia Newton John. The song was co-written by George Harrison and the whole sound of that record and the amazing slide guitar riff, has George's name all over it.
Shine On, Michael
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Post by mirrormist on Feb 21, 2007 20:05:29 GMT
"if not for you" Co Written with Dylan…Michael?...there is a lot of good stuff on the “All things must pass” album…a defining album in many ways from Mr Harrison…”Isn’t it a pity” beautiful song.
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 22, 2007 0:15:17 GMT
I know that Bob Dylan & George Harrison co-wrote 'If Not For You'. I was not suggesting that Olivia co-wrote the song with George. What do you take me for!!!!!!
Back to slide guitar greats.....
Shine On Michael
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Post by mirrormist on Feb 22, 2007 7:32:00 GMT
hahaha:)
best wishes
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Post by wolvoboy on Feb 22, 2007 7:59:59 GMT
Hi there, just a few more slide players BONNIE RAITT , ZZTOP ,GEORGE THOROGOOD, ROY BUCHANAN, keep pickin and slidin Wolvoboy
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Post by wolvoboy on Feb 22, 2007 8:46:33 GMT
Hi should have said Billy f Gibbons from zz top wolvoboy
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Post by growler on Feb 22, 2007 8:54:39 GMT
HI every body Two significant slide guitarists that seems to be always overlooked , one that has inspired me so much it must be a significant landmark as far as I am concerned, and he is Roy Rogers....... The other who died early thus depriving us of probably years of superb slide playing is Merle Watson another slide guitarist sadly overlooked.
Regards Growler
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2007 9:02:10 GMT
Looking at the more modern players - how about Derek Trucks. I think that truly is a unique style. He may not be influential at the moment - but I think he will be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2007 9:35:31 GMT
I would include John Fahey in a list of influential slide players Bernie
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Post by Michael Messer on Feb 22, 2007 11:42:00 GMT
This is an interesting thread. I really appreciate everyone's contributions. the more I see the names of great and influential slide players, the more I realize that real 'innovators' that put slide guitar into popular culture are few and far between. Possibly the most important and also the most obvious is Elmore James. Muddy Waters sits pretty close, but Elmore James is probably the most influential & famous slide guitarist. His style is the basis of the playing style of many of the names mentioned in this thread. He was without question the person who put slide guitar into popular culture. I also am beginning to think that Ry Cooder is following close behind. His soundtracks, mainly Paris Texas, launched a million acoustic slide players and put truckloads of acoustic slide guitar into popular culture via cinema screens and TV soundtracks. Since Paris Texas, acoustic blues slide guitar as soundtrack for films, documentaries, plays & adverts has become commonplace.
Apart from Elmore James and Ry Cooder who pushed it somewhere different, I think the real innovators and stars of slide guitar come from the 1920s & 30s - Blind Willie Johnson has a lot to answer for, so do Charlie Patton, Son House, Robert Johnson & Hambone Willie Newbern.
I would like to run a separate thread about influential players and family trees of slide guitar, because that is kind of where we have drifted. This is also of great interest to me and hopefully all of us. I'll get one going!
Your comments are much appreciated.
Shine On, Michael.
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