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Post by tawpick on Apr 28, 2016 19:24:21 GMT
A mate came round this afternoon clutching this old guitar. It was caked in dust so we set the Dyson to work clearing the crud from the bridge area. Based purely on what it sounded like with what must be 10 year old strings I shall probably buy this guitar. It sounds lovely. Attached are a few pics . I know very little about the maker or this guitar so was wondering if anyone on the forum could tell me more ?. The label inside reads 'George La Foley Guitar and Violin Maker'. Dave     |
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Post by tawpick on Apr 28, 2016 19:52:53 GMT
Just made a quick video of the guitar. Is this what a Tri-cone is supposed to sound like ??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 21:05:17 GMT
Sounds great even with the 10 year old strings.Be interesting to hear it with a new set. There are snippets of info re-George Foley on the net.Nice playing--the dog/parrot obviously likes it!
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Post by tawpick on Apr 28, 2016 21:24:37 GMT
Sounds great even with the 10 year old strings.Be interesting to hear it with a new set. Nice playing--the dog/parrot obviously likes it! Next doors cat came over the back wall to see what all the noise was about and my mates wire haired terrier responded accordingly. I usually play lap style guitar so when I buy this guitar I will raise the nut a tad to where I want it. Probably put nickels on it. The current set is badly corroded so amazed at how nice it sounds. Dave |
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Post by rbe on Apr 28, 2016 23:03:00 GMT
Any pictures of the back?
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Post by Brad Bechtel on Apr 29, 2016 1:34:21 GMT
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Post by tawpick on Apr 29, 2016 6:28:41 GMT
Any pictures of the back? Yes  At some point the machine heads have been changed. I take it that the Grovers are not as old as the guitar. Showing my ignorance about metal types what type of metal would the body be made from ?. There's no 'rust' whatsoever but quite a lot of 'green corrosion' inside and out. Dave Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 8:50:15 GMT
I hope I am wrong but I would guess it's a newer guitar that has been intentionally distressed to look ancient...
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Post by tawpick on Apr 29, 2016 9:24:02 GMT
I hope I am wrong but I would guess it's a newer guitar that has been intentionally distressed to look ancient... No it's old and extremely dusty. I'm no vintage guitar expert but nothing made in the recent past would have been this well made. There's a lot of attention to detail when you look closely at it. Of course it may not be totally original but I'm hoping someone on this forum may be able to shed more light on that. I only like it for how it plays and sounds and have no interest in ' how much' it's worth. Right now the action is set too low for slide playing but I can hear that it's going to sound great with a set up. Dave |
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Post by rickS on Apr 29, 2016 10:44:53 GMT
Well, those machineheads aren't that old, neither are the resonator cover screws, nor are there any of the signs of wear from playing that old'uns generally have - my guess is its something like a Republic that's been reliced - are the machineheads original to the guitar? Whatever, if it plays & sounds good, enjoy!
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Post by snakehips on Apr 29, 2016 10:54:38 GMT
Hi there !
This is a modern National copy, of Chinese factory origin, no doubt - the body shape - including the pressed back, is an exact double to all the "Republic" and other similar brands metal bodies.
The guitar body does not in ANY way look aged in a natural way. It has been distressed with acids or whatever to try and make it look old etc.
These Chinese-made metal bodies have been made for at least 20yrs or more - so it is entirely feasible that you have an early one, been left outside to the elements, for 20yrs to get that surface appearance. However, it's not some super-old vintage guitar.
I have seen too many of these fakes to know one when I see one. I really don't know who you are trying to kid.
If you are trying to con someone into buying this guitar, then forget it.
If you have been conned yourself, then I'm very sorry for you.
Please don't get me wrong - if you fancied just trying to see if you could make a guitar look old, just for the sheer hell of it, then carry on, and have fun with it.
However, I'm not convinced that this is what the motive was.
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Post by tawpick on Apr 29, 2016 11:20:32 GMT
Hi snakehips
That was a bit harsh to suggest that I was trying to con folks. Also I hav'nt been conned as I hav'nt actually bought it.
I was genuinely showing the guitar thinking that some folks may have been interested in the post. I was only asking for opinions about the guitar, which indeed you have put forward.
I could have done without my character being called into question on a public forum but any other opinions on the guitar are welcome.
Dave
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 29, 2016 11:42:25 GMT
Hi Tawpick,
The body of that guitar is a Shanghai-built Tricone body. The neck and fretboard are also from Shanghai. The George Foley sticker is a good idea, but I don't think George, a London-based luthier from the 1920s, ever made Chinese Tricones.
I hope you didn't pay too much for it. It is a copy of a National which would cost around £600 to buy new. It's a good guitar, ENJOY!
Shine On
Michael
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Post by snakehips on Apr 29, 2016 11:45:38 GMT
Hi again,
I think if you read my post again, you will see any harshness is ONLY for IF there has been an aim to deceive the readers here.
The guitar has obviously been "treated" to make it look old - but there is no such suggestion in your original posting - so you either don't know that is the case, or you are trying to deceive.
Only you will know which option applies.
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Post by Michael Messer on Apr 29, 2016 12:12:42 GMT
>>>I have just edited my post, because looking at the pics again, I can see that the neck too is Shanghai-built. The heel is the giveaway.
Shine On
Michael
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